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oh and welcome to the show

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i'm martin willis your host um well i

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mentioned

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the uh body language panel on

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and those are that's a panel of four uh

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experts

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that actually have looked at a lot of

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you know ufo stories and people in the

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ufo field

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and uh to try to decide uh whether it

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appears that they're telling you know

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the truth about their stories and they

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it's it's quite remarkable uh and not

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not just ufo people but a lot of other

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people

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and anyway they couldn't get it uh the

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four of them all together

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they're gonna be on in the second or

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third week in september

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it's gonna be real tricky for a couple

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of weeks

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um because the live shows on youtube

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are going to be different days as a

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matter of fact i'm going to be

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uh recording in a different time as well

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paul dean from australia because of the

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time difference and date and all that

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so uh but uh next week uh no

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don't forget because if you watch the

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unsolved mysteries

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the berkshires ufo um next week on the

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51st anniversary of the actual

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incident september 1st i will have one

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of the people that were in that

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tom warner he's the artist great guy

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i've spoken to him a number of times

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that that comes up just next week

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but tonight we have geraldine

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sutton stiff and uh she will be speaking

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about her

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family legacy the kelly hopkinsville

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encounter

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of 1955. now this particular incident

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has fascinated me actually since day one

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of looking into this topic

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um you know i heard this bizarre bizarre

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i'm gonna have her you know go through

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the story so there are uh like i

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mentioned a number of times on the show

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there's a lot of new people um

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that are on this show all the time

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so um it's possible that

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you know a lot of people have never

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heard of this story so i will

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indeed you know have her go through that

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uh like i said it's it's really really

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crazy

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and i don't even need to get into it she

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will um don't forget to check out our

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website podcastufo.com

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and uh while you're there check out um

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with two blogs actually

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on this incident they're revived blogs

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they uh they were written

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a while back and i brought them back for

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this particular one

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the kentucky i'm sorry the kelly

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kentucky ufo goblins

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that's the title of it part one and part

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two and charles uh

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will uh be creating audio blogs for that

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and so if you're on the podcast feed

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no matter where you get your podcast you

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will get that

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if you're just too darn lazy to read the

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but i do welcome you to go over and read

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the blogs there there's a lot of links

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to these blogs that go out to

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you know where he gets his sources so he

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does a great job

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uh that's charles lear and uh check out

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those blogs

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uh also while you're there there is the

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patreon link

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um that's under support the show i

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appreciate

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every single person that supports the

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show and if you can't do that i do

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appreciate you listening anyway

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and i also have a place over there for

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people to post

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anonymously they can post their ufo

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sightings so if you've had a

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ufo sighting you don't want anyone to

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know your name or to be bothered by

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anyone

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um you can use the anonymous post that i

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linked on our website podcastufo.com and

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uh there's also a place for you to put

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in pictures i can't figure out how to

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put in videos yet

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but if you send me a video you wanted to

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post

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i can figure that part out easily so

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you get it also you can go and check the

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ufo encounters that people have posted

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because there's some doozies in there

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and there was

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one recently a very interesting one uh

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and you can again you can check that out

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on podcastufo.com now i do approve each

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and every one of those posts because

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i just want to keep out the uh so to

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speak scammers and spammers

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and uh tonight we will be taking calls

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the last half hour we

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right we do have a break at 55 minutes

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four minute break i'll play a couple of

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during then for the people listening uh

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uh and in chat if you have a question

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um i may miss uh very well miss them

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so if you want me to ask a question

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and i'm not saying i necessarily will

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read the question but

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i will look at the question and if i

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think it makes sense i will ask

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the guest but please do put that in all

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it actually catches my eye and and then

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post it right right up on the screen

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let me just see just like this i can

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post it right up on the screen

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so anyway we are ready to bring in our

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and uh geraldine welcome to the show

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thank you

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in the south but you're not in kelly i

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mean you're not um

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in hopkinsville itself

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or is it kelly it's get them confused

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kelly kelly and kelly's outside of

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why why does it have this this hyphen

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like connected to hopkinsville it's

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it's in christian county it's part of

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christian county just like you know most

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little places are

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that are in the road you know it's not

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very big it's just small community

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okay oh it's christian county so it's

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kelly hopkinsville yeah yeah and uh so

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you are the daughter of uh one of uh you

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in the time you were you were born after

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this happened but you heard the story so

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so many times but um i understand it

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wasn't something that

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um was easily talked about in your

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for the person that's never heard it

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can you go right through this the story

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and and what happened that night

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and that was uh back in 1955 august 21st

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something like that right yes yes okay

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i'll just go through it very quickly no

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no no need to go

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quickly two hours oh we got two oh

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i didn't know that oh my goodness okay

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we'll just get into this then okay okay

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like you said it was august the 21st

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well that weekend what happened was

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um it was on my grandmother's farm she

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owned a little farm

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she was a widow she had three small

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12 10 and seven at the time this

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um it was you know lonnie charlton and

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also my uncle jc and anti and

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eileen lived with her to help her with a

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farm that weekend that this

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and his wife at the time vera were

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carnival my dad had worked with the

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carnival ever since he was 14 years old

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so he'd been there a while um

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evansville so they were going to come

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spend some time see the family eat some

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just enjoy themselves for the weekend

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and when they came they

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asked billy ray and june taylor if they

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wanted to come along they were friends

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them sure why not let's get away from

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this place so they headed to kelly

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evening and

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stayed the weekend they visited

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everybody because my dad had older

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it was a whole weekend affair you know

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like hunting and enjoying the time away

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you've got to realize the evening that

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this happened there were 11 people

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in this small farmhouse and

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they were all in there and my

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grandmother and the kids had went to

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sunday service they had gotten home

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and they had eaten and they were you

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and playing cards and just enjoying the

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last evening they had together

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and billy ray wanted to go out to the

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well to get some water

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they didn't have running water in the

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house they did have electricity

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but not running water so he goes out to

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as he's out there he hears something up

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turns to look

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and there it is a oval shaped object

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silver in color he described it as

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having the colors of the rainbow flowing

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behind it

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scared him he didn't know what it was we

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wouldn't know what it is

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so he runs in the house slams the door

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and tells everybody there's something

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out here i don't know what it is

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i you know it's not anything we've ever

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seen before

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you know it really it really frightened

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well the first thing my grandmother

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thought being my grandmother

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um he went out there to scare the girls

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you know things for all young people in

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their 20s

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billy ray's wife was only 18 or 19.

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and so that was her first thought and so

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she tried to tell him you know maybe it

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was a shooting star

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and he's no no that's not what it was i

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know what those look like

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maybe it was a meteor shower we've been

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having those all month

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no i know what those look like you know

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nothing they threw at him worked and so

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on so my dad finally told him so he

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would calm him down

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he told him he said well let's go back

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out there let's just take another look

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you show me where you saw this so they

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walk out to the well he points toward

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the sky

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tells him again what he saw my dad tries

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to reason with him again with the same

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things that they were saying in the

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house the shootings

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you know star all that stuff no no lucky

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no it was none of those things i know

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what those look like

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and he told him my dad told him said

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well listen there's nothing out here now

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let's just go back in the house and

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finish enjoying the evening

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we gotta go back to work

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so as they're walking back toward the

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house lo and behold

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and back where the woods are along the

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wood line

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comes this little three three and a half

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foot tall beam

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huge head big glowing eyes

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huge ears arms

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down by their sides almost touching the

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ground

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and it didn't seem to walk it looked

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like it was floating over the top of the

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ground

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they didn't know what it was ran in the

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house

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slammed the door behind them my dad said

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there is something out here don't know

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what it is

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we just saw it the first thing they

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thought was

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all right billy ray dunn got lucky out

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there

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to join in on the fun to try to scare

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the girls

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and he kept telling them no there's

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something out here

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my grandmother told him so listen i've

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got to get these kids to bed and you're

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scaring them

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you need to just stop well he wouldn't

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and she knew it was really serious when

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one grabbed the rifle

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one grabbed the shotgun one went to the

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front door and one went to the back

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so she's thinking okay

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something is going on here so she goes

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to the back door where

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billy ray is and she goes out there and

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sits down beside him

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and billy ray what did you see

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he looks at her and he says miss glitty

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i don't know what it was but i hope it's

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something that you never have to see

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so they sit there in silence while

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longer they can hear everybody in the

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house you know

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talking and carrying on then

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lo and behold along the corner of the

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house

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there it is as big as you please a

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little bean

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my grandmother screams she falls to the

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ground

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they all come running and they you know

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help her get up and ask her what's wrong

357
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and she said there is something out here

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i just saw it

359
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there is something out here and as

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they're out there talking they hear

361
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a shot ring out in the front of the

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house it's michael jc

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he shoots one through the window

364
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well billy ray goes running by him runs

365
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out the front door and there's this

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little stoop

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and as he's standing there looking you

368
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can see this clawed hand

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come down and tried to grab his hair

370
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well my aunt eileen gradison

371
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yanks him back in the house a dad runs

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out the front door

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turned towards where the hand came from

374
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there it is sitting there

375
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he shoots it he hits it it rolls and

376
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floats away

377
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somebody screams there's one in the big

378
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tree because they had these huge maple

379
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trees in the front yard

380
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and they're up on the limb there sets

381
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one turns

382
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shoots it floats to the ground rolls

383
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goes away so they're coming up to the

384
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doors and windows they're shooting at

385
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them

386
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they shoot one off the back fence

387
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they're shooting them from every

388
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direction they don't seem to be killing

389
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them they don't seem to be hurting them

390
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in any way because they're

391
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rolling and getting up again coming back

392
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they don't know what to do they're

393
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scared to death don't know what these

394
00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:45,680
things are

395
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this was happening to us we wouldn't

396
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know either

397
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so he tries to calm everybody down

398
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because the kids are crying

399
00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:56,800
jim's about to lose it don't know what

400
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to do can't kill these things

401
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don't know what they're there for in the

402
00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:04,320
first place where did they come from

403
00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:07,120
he tries to get them settled down so he

404
00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:08,240
gets them quiet

405
00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:10,720
and they're sitting there in the house

406
00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,560
and lo and behold they hear one going

407
00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:14,560
across the tin roof they can hear its

408
00:15:18,629 --> 00:15:15,839
nails

409
00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:18,639
going across the roof now can can you

410
00:15:22,069 --> 00:15:20,720
hold just one second there

411
00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:22,079
what did they hear they thought it was

412
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like nails from the claw

413
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or something like that yeah okay because

414
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um you mentioned that they floated or

415
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might have floated i was thinking

416
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how could you hear them on the roof if

417
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they were floating right but it sounded

418
00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:35,040
like the claws that's really right

419
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wow they i don't know if if

420
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they the little things knew what they

421
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:42,800
were doing you know

422
00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:44,320
they were smart enough to realize if

423
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they got up there maybe if they made a

424
00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:48,399
noise it would get a reaction

425
00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:51,440
i don't know none of us know why they

426
00:15:57,269 --> 00:15:53,199
were there or what they were trying to

427
00:16:01,269 --> 00:15:57,279
accomplish you know and

428
00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:01,279
we just don't know we never will but

429
00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:02,800
you know this sends them all into

430
00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:04,720
hysterics june's about to lose it the

431
00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:06,320
kids are crying again

432
00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:08,000
my dad's trying to get him settled back

433
00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:09,600
down and tell him i mean now listen

434
00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,959
we're going to get help we're going to

435
00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:12,720
get to hopkinsville we're going to get

436
00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:14,800
help and that was in his mind

437
00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:16,639
we've just got to get help and it'll be

438
00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:21,910
so it gets everybody quiet again and it

439
00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:23,600
gets quiet there's nothing coming up to

440
00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:25,279
the doors and windows finally

441
00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:27,680
so he tells him he's let's go so they

442
00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:30,160
hit the trucks head to hopkinsville

443
00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:32,240
hopkinsville is about seven miles down

444
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:33,680
the road

445
00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:36,880
they get there this is 1955.

446
00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:39,600
one little officer on duty so they all

447
00:16:45,509 --> 00:16:42,079
run in you've got 11 people

448
00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:45,519
from the age of 7 to 50 running in

449
00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:47,120
this little police station in the middle

450
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,560
of the night

451
00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:50,560
all of them trying to explain this one

452
00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:52,639
little man what just happened to him

453
00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:54,000
of course he's trying to listen to

454
00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:55,839
everybody he's not getting it all he's

455
00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:57,680
trying to understand

456
00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:59,120
you're telling me you've got men

457
00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:01,040
attacking your house and my dad is

458
00:17:05,110 --> 00:17:02,320
trying to tell him no no

459
00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:05,120
no you're not understanding us so he

460
00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:06,079
tells him he says just

461
00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:09,360
just calm down stay here so he gets on

462
00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:10,559
the phone he calls

463
00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:13,439
the chief chief russell greenwall the

464
00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:14,720
chief tells them

465
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:17,520
keep them there you call fort campbell

466
00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:19,439
because four candle army base was just

467
00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:21,919
down the road from hopkinsville

468
00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:24,000
you call fort campbell you call the

469
00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:25,600
paper you call the radio you call

470
00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:26,959
anybody you can

471
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:30,080
we're going out to kelly so everybody

472
00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:32,000
gets there

473
00:17:35,909 --> 00:17:33,600
here you got this little caravan of

474
00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:35,919
vehicles going out to itsy bitsy kelly

475
00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:37,440
in the middle of the night it's pitch

476
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:38,799
black dark

477
00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:41,440
1955 you don't have security lights and

478
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:42,960
all that kind of stuff going on

479
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:46,640
right yeah and um it's eerie

480
00:17:51,669 --> 00:17:49,679
they pull up and the whole place just

481
00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:51,679
feels like something's not right

482
00:17:55,270 --> 00:17:54,880
you could tell as they were pulling up

483
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:55,280
the

484
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:00,320
in it saw a glowing substance on

485
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:03,440
that fence where they had shot one well

486
00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:04,720
it was on the ground

487
00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:08,400
by the fence and so they walked up to it

488
00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:10,240
first thing to see if they could tell

489
00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:12,720
what it was well as they walked up to it

490
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:16,000
the glow went away when they'd walk away

491
00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:17,760
they could see it glow again so they can

492
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:20,880
never figure that one out

493
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,640
but they could tell something happened

494
00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:24,480
there were shotgun rifle shells

495
00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:27,360
all over the ground outside all over the

496
00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:28,799
inside of the house

497
00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,200
woodwork and screams were shot up

498
00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:35,440
so something happened to this family but

499
00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:36,559
what what was it

500
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:40,960
there wasn't any bodies no blood

501
00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:45,440
no appendages of any kind laying around

502
00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:48,080
and the chief knowing that these are

503
00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:49,679
country boys that could hit

504
00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:52,400
anything knew whatever they were

505
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:54,000
shooting at they had to have been

506
00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:56,880
hitting so what was it and did they use

507
00:19:01,830 --> 00:18:59,919
was it a shotgun or or were these

508
00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:01,840
handguns i mean a shotgun you have a

509
00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:03,360
really broad range

510
00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:06,400
this is a 12 and a 20 gauge

511
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:10,000
shotgun and a 22 rifle oh 22

512
00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:12,240
would be a tough one but still those

513
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:15,600
shotguns should have hit something

514
00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,360
like i said you think these were country

515
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:19,120
boys they learned how to

516
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:21,120
hunt by the time they could walk just

517
00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:22,640
about you know they could shoot a rabbit

518
00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:25,200
running a squirrel a tree a bird flying

519
00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:26,960
and they were actually shooting inside

520
00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:32,070
could you lose your hearing for doing

521
00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:34,640
that well yes they were coming up to the

522
00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:35,600
windows

523
00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:38,960
yeah explorer you know

524
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,320
then being country boys

525
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:44,480
their thought was you know shoot

526
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:45,840
questions and ask what

527
00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:47,840
you shoot now and ask questions later

528
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,559
because they didn't know what these were

529
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:52,160
why were they trying to get in the house

530
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:53,840
in the first place if they were trying

531
00:19:58,070 --> 00:19:54,640
to get in the house

532
00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:58,080
what were they wanting

533
00:20:01,510 --> 00:20:00,240
now do you know if there was any like

534
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:01,520
aggression

535
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:04,480
after that like did they change the way

536
00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:05,039
they were

537
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:08,159
acting and reacting these beings or did

538
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:09,760
they just continue like almost like

539
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:10,960
robots just

540
00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:13,600
continue trying to get possibly get in

541
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:14,880
the house or whatever they were trying

542
00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:15,840
to do

543
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:18,840
they just continued i mean my

544
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,000
grandmother

545
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:22,559
thought that maybe something was wrong

546
00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:24,000
because when they were coming up

547
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:25,919
to the windows and doors they were

548
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:27,120
coming up with their hands

549
00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:30,640
raised like in a gesture of

550
00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:33,840
surrender maybe and they didn't have

551
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:35,360
anything on them they weren't trying to

552
00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:37,039
shoot back or trying to

553
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,960
to to get back at them in any way they

554
00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:40,400
were just seemed

555
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:43,360
like they were curious i guess yeah

556
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:45,039
welcome to earth right

557
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:48,960
yeah yeah putting it in the wrong place

558
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:49,760
fellas

559
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:53,200
yeah but um that's what she thought

560
00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:55,039
from the very beginning maybe they just

561
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:57,120
needed help maybe something was wrong

562
00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:59,039
but they didn't know that for sure my

563
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:00,960
dad wasn't gonna take that chance here

564
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:04,000
it was his mother his younger siblings

565
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:04,400
his

566
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:08,960
going to take the chance of

567
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,240
not knowing what these things were going

568
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:12,799
to do if they did come in the house

569
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:16,480
so you know that was his mindset and

570
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:18,159
that's what he believed and that's what

571
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:20,000
he did he protected

572
00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:24,880
what was his and um

573
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:27,440
but anyway the chief told my my

574
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,159
grandmother

575
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:30,559
she said miss glenny there's nothing

576
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:34,159
here we can't find anything

577
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:37,440
wow what about the the glowing substance

578
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:40,159
on the fence or wherever you said it was

579
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:43,120
um did that remain and did anyone think

580
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:44,080
to

581
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,799
um you know get a sample of of it or

582
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,840
anything like that

583
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,520
no see that was another thing too about

584
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:51,919
this whole story nothing

585
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:54,960
the proper protocol wasn't done at all

586
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:57,120
they should have went in there and just

587
00:22:03,990 --> 00:21:59,440
you know wrote the whole thing off

588
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:04,000
took samples um the next morning

589
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:07,840
there was uh people from the army

590
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:11,120
base there combing grounds

591
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:13,679
really yeah yes see a lot of people

592
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:16,880
don't realize that or know that but yes

593
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:20,640
and uh what what did they do exactly did

594
00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:24,080
did they were they there a long time

595
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,600
i don't know how long they were there i

596
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,200
do know that

597
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,080
they were there that morning and you

598
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:32,720
know how they do it like

599
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:35,440
so far apart just combing the grounds

600
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:36,000
yeah and

601
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,840
what they did and there was stuff flying

602
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:40,480
overhead

603
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:44,080
wow so you know they were there

604
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:48,559
but it just got swept under the rug

605
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:51,840
you know how that is it just

606
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:54,880
they they didn't want anything to become

607
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:55,679
of this

608
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,720
so they just got rid of it very quickly

609
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:00,720
as quickly as they could

610
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:04,080
and um just just let it go

611
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:06,880
they you know yeah you know in the the

612
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:08,880
part where you hear the ridicule

613
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:12,159
uh when someone says oh little green men

614
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:13,919
you know that's what they are that's

615
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:15,600
what they were huh or something like

616
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:16,240
that

617
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:22,880
in this yes we've heard

618
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,520
little green men on the movies and tv

619
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:27,360
and all that stuff this is where it

620
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:28,799
originated from

621
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:32,640
a reporter started that little kick

622
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:35,919
because um kel you know the color kelly

623
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:37,760
green

624
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,840
well it was easy it sounded better kelly

625
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:43,120
green and kelly gray

626
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:44,880
so they were kelly green little kelly

627
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:47,039
green men and so that's where you get

628
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:48,640
the little green then from

629
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,919
sure is but did they but they were

630
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,600
green though right weren't they they

631
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:55,360
weren't green they were

632
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,480
a a gray oh they were

633
00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:00,240
see that's the confusion because you

634
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:01,760
always hear

635
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:05,279
of the kelly green men you know yeah

636
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:08,799
oh so the reporter it's a reporter that

637
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:09,679
kind of

638
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:13,360
slanted that yes how about that

639
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:16,400
huh yeah they were they were like they s

640
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:19,919
like a gunmetal gray so now

641
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:23,120
at what time of night did this verse

642
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:24,880
happen he's out at the well

643
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,640
and he sees the the ship but when he

644
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:28,240
actually saw the being

645
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:31,279
the first the first one um was it dusk

646
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:33,919
do you know or you know yeah it was it

647
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:35,919
was well like i think it's august

648
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:39,840
um back then central time

649
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:42,559
around 8 30 ish it's pr we're thinking

650
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:44,640
is probably about the time he saw this

651
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:46,960
the first you know the ship going across

652
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,320
the sky

653
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:51,360
now did did the family members

654
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:53,200
state that they actually got a really

655
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,720
really clear

656
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,720
shot i mean they saw these things really

657
00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:57,760
clearly

658
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:01,039
oh yeah they absolutely saw you know

659
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:02,640
they were able to go

660
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:06,640
and describe what they saw

661
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:10,400
and um all the drawings there are three

662
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:11,679
drawings out there

663
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:15,760
that were drawn and and

664
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,360
what they did was they took each one in

665
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:19,600
this room by themselves and asked about

666
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:20,320
it

667
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:23,600
identical

668
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:27,279
i mean yeah so oh they each were put in

669
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:28,720
a different room

670
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:31,679
and here's a here's the one of the

671
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,480
drawings of it

672
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:34,640
right here you can see people on youtube

673
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,520
and it's also

674
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,760
uh for those of you that are listening

675
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:39,200
to the audio part of this

676
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,919
um it's on it's in the show not in the

677
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:43,520
show notes it's actually in the blogs

678
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,400
that we have

679
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:47,200
um up that charles lear wrote so this is

680
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,480
one of the drawings

681
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:50,640
and uh now i can see why they call them

682
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:51,600
goblins

683
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:54,159
i mean they get the big ears hands

684
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:55,360
hanging down

685
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:58,159
wow and uh what about those eyes those

686
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:00,240
eyes look really

687
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,279
like uh very circular like i don't know

688
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:05,520
not like bug eyes but did they talk

689
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:06,640
about i mean that's

690
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:09,120
that's the when i've talked to people

691
00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:10,000
that

692
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:11,520
for instance like travis walton or

693
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,279
whatever are

694
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:15,360
the ariel school it's the eyes they

695
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:16,880
always uh

696
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:20,080
comment on the eyes were the eyes uh

697
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:20,799
anything

698
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,679
in particular that they made any

699
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:25,039
statement about

700
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,159
well well the eyes i think is actually

701
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,400
what saved them because

702
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,919
they had noticed that if they turned a

703
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:33,600
light on or shined a light toward them

704
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:35,919
in any way they'd back off

705
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:38,480
and that morning after it was all over

706
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:39,200
with

707
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,440
um the sun was their saving grace

708
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,120
because when the sun came up that's when

709
00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:47,039
they finally left

710
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,080
so they may have had uh you know vision

711
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,200
uh over large pupils

712
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,159
or something uh that caused them to be

713
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:57,919
very light sensitive but you would think

714
00:27:02,310 --> 00:26:58,720
that

715
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,320
not eternal i don't know but

716
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:04,159
they did notice that and they think the

717
00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:05,760
sun the next morning was their saving

718
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,159
grace

719
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:07,919
because you know after everybody left

720
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:10,159
that night they were left to themselves

721
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:11,279
and they came back

722
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,120
so um they started the gunfight again

723
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:17,840
and this lasted until daylight

724
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:19,760
and they didn't leave till the sun came

725
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:20,880
up

726
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:24,159
it's amazing wow so they they had one

727
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:24,799
horrific

728
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:28,240
night yes and uh and but they got

729
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,200
through it

730
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,000
and and uh boy i wouldn't live i

731
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,080
wouldn't stay in that house the next day

732
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:36,799
i'd be so far gone out of there it was

733
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,520
long

734
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:40,559
happened

735
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:44,320
after after that event

736
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:47,679
well after it all happened um the next

737
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,080
morning

738
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,559
my dad sat the family down and told them

739
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:51,840
to listen

740
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:54,399
so we need to just forget this ever

741
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:56,720
happened because i heard them last night

742
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:58,880
they were laughing at us

743
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:01,919
oh wow and um he says no good can come

744
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:04,320
with a story so he said just try to

745
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,919
forget it and let's just go on with

746
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:07,440
their lives and that's what they tried

747
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,240
to do

748
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,159
but of course that wasn't gonna happen

749
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,240
because you had the people invasion you

750
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:13,840
had people coming

751
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,279
setting up tents and stuff out in the

752
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,960
yard spending the night

753
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,720
thinking that they would be back wanting

754
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,240
to see them

755
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,880
now that happened right away oh yeah the

756
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,760
next night

757
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:26,000
i mean people were coming the next day

758
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,240
they had no peace

759
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:30,399
oh wow and they just set up blatantly

760
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:31,919
set up in the yard they're well that's

761
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:33,279
what all they did they'd walk through

762
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:35,039
the house and take souvenirs they were

763
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:36,240
picking us

764
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,279
up you know it was a big thing

765
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:41,120
back then you know hey there was

766
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:42,960
something that came from somewhere else

767
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:44,320
we want a piece of it

768
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:47,200
and he had reporters coming from

769
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:48,720
everywhere

770
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:51,840
so did this hit the wire

771
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:54,880
yeah so it went out it went

772
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:58,880
everywhere yeah yeah i mean people from

773
00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:01,440
everywhere were coming uh if you look up

774
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:03,720
newspaper clips and stuff

775
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:06,399
california i mean everywhere people were

776
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,840
wanting to find out about these little

777
00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:09,600
beans

778
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:11,919
and now my grandmother was scared to

779
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:13,760
death she didn't know what to do

780
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:16,000
because my dad billy ray and the girls

781
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,679
had to go back to work

782
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,039
so she was going to be left there with

783
00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:21,440
just the three three kids and michael

784
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,120
j.c and aunt eileen

785
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:25,520
she didn't know what she was going to do

786
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,640
so she sold the farm within two weeks

787
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:31,200
and she moved into hopkinsville too four

788
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:32,720
weeks

789
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,080
oh my god so she like uh it it must have

790
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,159
been a distress sale what they call

791
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:40,000
a distress sale where you just sell it

792
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:41,679
for whatever to get out of there as

793
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,720
quick as possible

794
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,480
well she actually sold it to some more

795
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:46,399
family and

796
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:48,159
yeah that moved in there with her mom

797
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,600
and dad was scared to death they didn't

798
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,919
want to move into that house

799
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,960
they bought it but they didn't want to

800
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:54,960
move in oh they did

801
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:58,159
and at the time my mom and her first

802
00:30:03,990 --> 00:29:59,840
husband

803
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:04,000
and their kids lived in kelly and uh she

804
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,840
she said it was scary she's she they're

805
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,240
scared

806
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:10,399
because nobody knew what things were and

807
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:12,640
why did they choose that house it could

808
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:15,200
have been any of them that they chose

809
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:18,640
yeah but they chose that one you know

810
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:19,840
and the fear was

811
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,159
would they be back of course and

812
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,919
because did they not get what they

813
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:27,440
wanted before

814
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,120
would they be back would they choose a

815
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:31,679
different house

816
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:34,880
you know that that fear was there and

817
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:38,559
it lingered for a long time

818
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:41,440
i bet and you know i mean there's you

819
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:42,399
know why that house

820
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:45,039
whatever the it's it's probably just a

821
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,159
random thing

822
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,000
again uh they happened to choose one

823
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:51,120
that had some weapons but

824
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:53,200
well anyhow it would have chose back

825
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:54,720
then would have been the wrong house

826
00:31:03,350 --> 00:30:57,760
oh probably yeah yeah yeah

827
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,360
yeah but so so uh i i totally get that

828
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,679
and you know it makes me want you know

829
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:06,799
the first thing

830
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:09,919
i i think of is of course if something

831
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:12,720
like this happened to me what would i do

832
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:14,720
as i said i would not spend another

833
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:16,399
night there um

834
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:19,600
and uh i would just let the uh

835
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:22,960
tourist uh tourists take over the place

836
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:25,039
you know the people looking and but

837
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:26,399
anyway uh yeah that

838
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:28,640
that that whole thing and to think of it

839
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,000
that they put up with us an

840
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,200
entire night and

841
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:35,440
and the little whatever they were never

842
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,240
fought back

843
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:39,440
but they just were persistent trying

844
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:43,600
to observe or get in or or whatever

845
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,000
and i bet the place was shot up and beat

846
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:48,399
up really bad

847
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:51,679
it was it was an old weatherboard house

848
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,880
anyway and uh yeah the

849
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:56,480
shots through the screens of course the

850
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,720
windows weren't down they were

851
00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:00,559
pulled up so they were shooting through

852
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:01,840
the bottoms

853
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:03,039
because that's where they were coming up

854
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:04,720
to they were small and short so they

855
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,399
were coming up to the bottoms

856
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,159
so thankfully they were just shooting

857
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:10,080
through the screens

858
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,840
but uh yeah i

859
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,679
they used almost all their ammo and that

860
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,600
was another fear too they were almost

861
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:19,600
out what were they going to do if they

862
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:21,279
had run out because

863
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,320
you know it's gotten in then but like i

864
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:26,080
said saving grace was the sun that

865
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:27,120
morning

866
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:29,760
now was it just pure chaos with the 11

867
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,960
people

868
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:33,120
you know i mean were they like screaming

869
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:34,640
and you know trying to

870
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,440
hiding and what went on during that

871
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:38,960
whole thing do you know

872
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,519
well yeah my dad well one thing my dad

873
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:43,360
did is he made uh

874
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:46,080
vera take the kids to the back bedroom

875
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:46,720
and

876
00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:50,640
to hide him because you know he was

877
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:52,799
afraid for the kids lives

878
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:56,080
and the women i think

879
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:57,279
all of them went back there in the

880
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,679
bedroom to come think of it

881
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,679
and just stayed back there with the kids

882
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:03,840
but you know of course it was just chaos

883
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,919
i mean the men were trying to

884
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:10,799
save everybody o.p baker was there too

885
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:11,600
that is uh

886
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:14,080
my aunt eileen's brother he was there

887
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,919
that night also

888
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:17,519
and so you know they all had guns and

889
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,960
they were trying to keep these things

890
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:20,080
off

891
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:24,159
and uh i don't know i don't

892
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:25,279
i just don't know what would have

893
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:26,799
happened if my grandmother had been

894
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:27,519
there with just

895
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,480
jc and i lean in the kids i just wonder

896
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:32,240
what would have happened then if they

897
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:34,240
would have done the same thing

898
00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:36,799
or let them in because she was a type of

899
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:38,159
person that

900
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:41,120
she let him in the door would probably

901
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:42,000
try to see you

902
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:45,760
you know maybe go out there and

903
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:47,919
see you know hey what's the problem or

904
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:49,600
can i help you in any way because that's

905
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:51,679
the kind of person she was

906
00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:54,480
come in for tea yeah i don't know i

907
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:55,519
don't know

908
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:58,480
but it it was scary i mean it would be

909
00:34:02,230 --> 00:33:59,360
scary to us

910
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:02,240
now can you oh absolutely imagine that

911
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,279
in your home and

912
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:05,360
minding your own business watching tv

913
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:06,640
and all of a sudden you look over in

914
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:07,760
your window and there's something

915
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,320
staring

916
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,399
at you that you don't know what it is

917
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:12,800
yeah it sounds like a pure nightmare

918
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,960
um now did anyone i know this is

919
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,560
probably kind of a strange question but

920
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:18,240
did anyone feel

921
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:20,800
like any type of communication of any

922
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,599
type did anyone ever talk about that

923
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,960
as far as i know there was no

924
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:26,879
communication of course there was so

925
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,800
much shooting and stuff going on if the

926
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:30,480
portal things tried to open their mouth

927
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:32,480
then they've got it blown off i don't

928
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:32,879
know

929
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:36,720
but they never said they tried to talk

930
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:37,040
to

931
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:39,040
them there was never kind there's never

932
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:40,560
any kind of

933
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:43,760
you know thing going between them

934
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:47,040
uh it was just you know

935
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:50,560
whole country boy thing shoot

936
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,760
shoot and here's a here's a you know a

937
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:55,440
question someone posted

938
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:58,079
um uh was there a dog was there dog

939
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:59,680
there's usually dogs on a farm where

940
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:00,000
they

941
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:06,560
dogs but that was one of the things too

942
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,750
when when my dad and billy ray were

943
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,200
coming back into the house

944
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:17,839
from the well the old hound dog did run

945
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,040
by him

946
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:21,359
his tail was stuck you know head down

947
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,240
scared to death

948
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:24,000
and ran under the house and didn't come

949
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:26,560
back out oh wow

950
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:30,000
so he just didn't come back out and

951
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:32,800
you know there were neighbors that heard

952
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,119
they heard they could hear

953
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:37,359
uh the commotion they could hear my

954
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:38,400
family

955
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:40,079
hollering and of course there was some

956
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,910
you know of course they started here in

957
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:46,800
the the

958
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,520
the gunfire you know even there was one

959
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:51,839
neighbor that lived

960
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:54,320
in the back of them on another farm back

961
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:55,520
in the back

962
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:59,040
and uh he heard the commotion starting

963
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,000
and he thought

964
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,400
maybe some of the animals had gotten out

965
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:03,920
and so he was actually putting on his

966
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:05,599
boots and grabbing a

967
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:07,280
a flashlight and he was going to head

968
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,720
out there and try to help and see if

969
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:10,480
there was something he could do

970
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:13,920
then the gunshots started and he thought

971
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:14,560
oh

972
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,800
whoa here you know if i go out there i

973
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,200
get hit by a bullet

974
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:21,680
so yeah he turned around like back in

975
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:22,800
the house

976
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:25,440
now did anyone else i mean this you you

977
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:26,079
mentioned

978
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,920
that they saw you know the colors of the

979
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:29,119
rainbow or or

980
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:31,599
uh i forget who you said went out to the

981
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:32,480
well

982
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:35,440
but did anyone else see that craft at

983
00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:37,440
any given time

984
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:39,680
or whatever it was not the people in the

985
00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:40,480
house

986
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,950
people had been seeing different kinds

987
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:48,160
of lights

988
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:51,200
and things in the sky

989
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,320
that night people were seeing things in

990
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,160
fact

991
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,720
this came out later on after after it

992
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:00,079
all was over with

993
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:04,160
but um i have to describe how this goes

994
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:05,839
you've got kelly

995
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:08,160
and you've got hopkinsville then you've

996
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,160
got fort campbell army base

997
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:12,160
and above fort campbell going north

998
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:15,920
there you've got clarksville tennessee

999
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:18,400
and there was lights being seen that

1000
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,839
nobody knew what they were

1001
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:21,599
from clarksville they started in

1002
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,160
clarksville

1003
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,240
went down fort campbell went through

1004
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:28,160
hopkinsville and went through kelly

1005
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:30,320
so people were seeing lights that

1006
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:37,270
you know but nobody thought anything of

1007
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:38,400
it

1008
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,359
and i think one reason being is you got

1009
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:43,440
fort campbell army base there

1010
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:46,800
and it seems like if you live near an

1011
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:48,640
army base the first thing you think

1012
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,599
is the army base is doing maneuvers or

1013
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:53,440
they're just

1014
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:55,280
and so i think when you live around that

1015
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,880
type of environment that's the first

1016
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:58,079
thing people are thinking

1017
00:38:01,990 --> 00:37:59,599
oh well it's just for campbell doing

1018
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:02,000
something and they didn't think anything

1019
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:03,520
more of it until

1020
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:06,400
the word got out that there was

1021
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:09,280
something attacking a family

1022
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,480
you know at first these were called

1023
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,079
goblins and the reason they were called

1024
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:13,839
goblins is because

1025
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:16,240
my grandmother thought they were goblins

1026
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:17,280
something the devil

1027
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:19,119
may have sent forth because she was

1028
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:20,720
religious

1029
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:24,000
and um you hear that a lot a lot of

1030
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:25,359
people think

1031
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:27,680
you know it's it's it's something evil

1032
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:28,400
or

1033
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,839
the devil you hear that a lot in

1034
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:33,119
encounters

1035
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,720
definitely um heard that many many times

1036
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:39,119
um now that there's someone made a point

1037
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:40,000
what about

1038
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:43,200
wasn't there an area on the ground that

1039
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:46,880
where the possibly where the craft was

1040
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:50,160
land had landed or something um it's not

1041
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:52,079
a burn was it a burn mark or something

1042
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,119
like that

1043
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:55,440
yes there was a place on the ground and

1044
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:57,680
it stayed there for a very long time and

1045
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:01,119
the reason i know this

1046
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,800
when my parents got together they kept

1047
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:04,480
this story hid from us we didn't know

1048
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,119
anything about this i mean it was a

1049
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:09,359
hush-hush thing nobody unders

1050
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,520
anything about it we found out by chance

1051
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:15,599
and that was

1052
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:18,640
one sunday afternoon it was summertime

1053
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:22,240
this man and woman came to our house

1054
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,359
knocking on the door i answered the door

1055
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:27,280
and they asked to talk to my daddy and

1056
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,200
so i ran to the back of the house my mom

1057
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:31,359
and dad were in got them

1058
00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:35,200
and uh they introduced themselves at all

1059
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,839
pleasantries and he told him he says mr

1060
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:39,680
sutton we want to talk about the green

1061
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:41,839
men

1062
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:44,720
was like eight or nine years old when

1063
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:45,119
this

1064
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:53,839
because i thought green man what what am

1065
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,880
i talking about

1066
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:56,880
because even as young as i was i was

1067
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:58,880
already into sci-fi thing what little

1068
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:01,119
sci-fi there was at the time

1069
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:04,160
in horror i love horror

1070
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,359
so you know i thought boy you know

1071
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,599
this is interesting so they set us down

1072
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:11,040
a little circle on the floor

1073
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:13,920
me and my younger siblings and they all

1074
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:14,240
sat

1075
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,400
down and my dad started telling this

1076
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:18,160
incredible story

1077
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:21,359
scared me after it was done with though

1078
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:22,960
i'd run around the house shutting all

1079
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:25,680
the shades and curtains and windows

1080
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,880
afraid these little things are going to

1081
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,920
come back and they're going to be

1082
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:30,160
looking in at us

1083
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:33,920
and the following weekend

1084
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:37,119
my dad took us to kelly he wanted to

1085
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,960
show us where it all happened i guess

1086
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,359
this was maybe a little closure for him

1087
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:42,960
in it all

1088
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,400
and um the house was still standing

1089
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:48,880
there of course it was falling in

1090
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,640
but the family still owned it part of

1091
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:52,079
your family still owned it

1092
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:54,400
yes yeah but they they didn't live there

1093
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,200
obviously

1094
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:56,880
well it had a trailer sitting in front

1095
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,200
of it i see uh-huh yeah a trailer was

1096
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:01,359
sitting in front of the house

1097
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:04,640
and well was still there in fact it's

1098
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,319
still there today

1099
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:08,560
and we went to the back of the field

1100
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,800
they took us all the way in the back

1101
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:13,040
and i'll never forget it lo and behold

1102
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,920
there was this

1103
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:15,599
round place on the ground where nothing

1104
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:16,960
was growing

1105
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:20,319
wow a perfect circle on the ground

1106
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:23,839
nothing there and um

1107
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:26,640
that just made it that much more real to

1108
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:27,119
me

1109
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:32,079
being a kid and hearing this crazy story

1110
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:35,440
then seeing this it just made it

1111
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,119
you know oh wow he really really did go

1112
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:40,960
through something that week and they all

1113
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:42,319
did

1114
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:45,040
and now what about the siblings that

1115
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:46,400
were actually

1116
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:49,599
witnessed um this did they just

1117
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:52,240
um i don't know if they were uh step you

1118
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,720
know

1119
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,079
sisters or brothers to you or whatever

1120
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:56,160
they were but did they

1121
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:58,720
um did they talk about it or they did

1122
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,160
they listen to their dad

1123
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,720
that night when he's uh the next morning

1124
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:04,720
when he said no one talk about this

1125
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:08,400
and they oh oh that's

1126
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,920
they they were my dad's two brothers and

1127
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:13,839
little sister

1128
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,200
um oh i see yeah yeah yeah they're all

1129
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,119
still alive today

1130
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:21,200
but they don't talk about it the oldest

1131
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,040
one used to

1132
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,520
um but he's gotten to the point where he

1133
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:27,040
just doesn't anymore

1134
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,720
i think it's because he

1135
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:32,960
forgets some of the stuff he's close to

1136
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:34,319
80 now

1137
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,920
and the other two they've just simply

1138
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,200
forgotten about it they just don't want

1139
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:39,119
to talk about it at all

1140
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:42,640
uh and i don't blame them

1141
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:44,960
it's scary i don't blame him you know

1142
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:46,400
it's just too much

1143
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:49,680
it's too much for them you know it was a

1144
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:51,920
part of their life all their lives

1145
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:55,280
and i don't blame them for not wanting

1146
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:59,200
to talk about it uh well i have my uh

1147
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:00,240
good friend

1148
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:02,319
lee spiegel's um listening to the show

1149
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,599
he just sent me

1150
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:05,760
an image and saying this is why so many

1151
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:07,440
people descended on the farm and i'm

1152
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:08,800
just gonna pop it up

1153
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:11,119
on the screen there i'm sure you're

1154
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,480
familiar with it

1155
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:15,119
uh yeah you've probably seen this a

1156
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:16,319
million times right

1157
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:19,599
i've got it yeah yeah uh so it's a great

1158
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:20,160
clip

1159
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:23,359
and um and and what

1160
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:25,599
when these when everyone okay wow that's

1161
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:26,880
the next day

1162
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:31,680
uh august 22nd yeah the day following

1163
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:37,990
i see there was a joke in there

1164
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:42,160
i i missed okay all right lee i got it

1165
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,079
all right uh but anyway um

1166
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:48,160
it's just it's just really amazing how

1167
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:49,839
this happened

1168
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:52,720
and uh there was so much news about it i

1169
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:53,119
mean i

1170
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,200
i when i first started looking into this

1171
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:57,359
topic you know it's one of these stories

1172
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,960
and i kept saying that has got to be the

1173
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,240
most crazy

1174
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,720
encounter i've ever heard i mean i i

1175
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:04,480
can't imagine another

1176
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:07,040
encounter like that i mean it's got to

1177
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,000
be the most bizarre

1178
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:11,119
one have you ever heard of a an

1179
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:14,000
encounter similar to this in any type of

1180
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:14,640
way

1181
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,040
not like this one though now i've had

1182
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,800
people come forward and tell me that

1183
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,800
they've seen little beings of some kind

1184
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:22,640
that resemble

1185
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:25,359
or they've heard stories of little

1186
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:27,440
beings resembling those

1187
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:30,640
but not a story quite like this one not

1188
00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:33,200
involving 11 people

1189
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:35,920
and you know that's another thing too

1190
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:38,079
you've got 11 people that this happened

1191
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:39,359
to

1192
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,440
and uh that even makes it more credible

1193
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,200
you know they stuck with it they stuck

1194
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:47,119
to their guns with this story it never

1195
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:48,720
changed

1196
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:51,680
and uh and someone put in the uh chat

1197
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:53,839
room earlier and i'm aware of this too

1198
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:56,400
that this is this is like the third case

1199
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:57,440
actually the first

1200
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:00,720
case of where people talk about beings

1201
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,040
floating not quite touching the ground

1202
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:05,440
you know i know of like the ariel school

1203
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:06,560
incident

1204
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:09,680
uh that is one of them another one was

1205
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:10,960
west hall i believe

1206
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:13,839
uh someone posted but there's several

1207
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:15,280
cases or this is maybe is

1208
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:17,359
the third including this but of course

1209
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,000
this 1955 this is the first time

1210
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,280
i think anyone um actually

1211
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,839
talked about you know something that was

1212
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,200
actually floating and not

1213
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:29,520
touching the ground right another

1214
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:31,839
bizarre thing

1215
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:35,440
yeah well how all things bizarre

1216
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,760
but let me yeah let me let me just ask

1217
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:39,119
you this because i don't believe you

1218
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,319
mentioned it

1219
00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:43,040
were there when they shot these poor

1220
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:43,839
little guys

1221
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,640
was there any reaction at all to the

1222
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,400
getting hit or

1223
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:50,480
being shot the only thing they would do

1224
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:51,440
is like fall back

1225
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:54,240
roll float away that was the only thing

1226
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:55,119
they would actually

1227
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:57,760
float away yeah they were they were

1228
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,520
hitting them i mean they could hear them

1229
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,960
they were they were pinging when they

1230
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,800
hit them like a tin bucket

1231
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,000
so they knew they were hitting on them

1232
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:05,680
they were hitting them anyway i don't

1233
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:07,119
care you got three three and a half foot

1234
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:08,480
tall being there you're going to be a

1235
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:09,440
hitting them

1236
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,640
you know a lot of the uh skeptics you

1237
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,359
know they said it was monkeys or cats or

1238
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:17,040
owls and all that kind of thing well you

1239
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:18,560
gotta think these country boys would

1240
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,520
have been tearing those

1241
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:21,520
pieces there wouldn't be nothing left of

1242
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:24,720
them but blood guts laying everywhere

1243
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:27,200
if it if it had been a living being of

1244
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,640
any kind that could

1245
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:31,200
be killed and that's the whole thing

1246
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:33,119
these things could not be

1247
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:37,119
killed they were coming back

1248
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,040
that that is like of all the nightmares

1249
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:43,040
there's a question that came in again if

1250
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:44,319
you would like to ask

1251
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:46,880
our guest a question and didn't want to

1252
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:47,599
call in

1253
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:50,800
just put it in in all caps and stephen

1254
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,240
thank you for doing that

1255
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:54,160
so is it true while the chief of police

1256
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:55,839
spoke to the grandmother

1257
00:47:01,829 --> 00:46:59,520
over time stated as he

1258
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:01,839
convinced something happened because of

1259
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:04,000
the grandmother's

1260
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,630
yes he always believed my grandmother

1261
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,079
well my grandmother was known in the

1262
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:16,720
community um

1263
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:18,480
she was a god-bearing woman she wouldn't

1264
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,240
have lied if you'd cut her arm off

1265
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:22,960
that's how she was

1266
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:25,040
and of course there was fear there was

1267
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,319
fear in all of them

1268
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,160
i mean they were all showing some kind

1269
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:30,079
of fear because

1270
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:33,280
it was downright scary

1271
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,839
um and and the chief believed it also

1272
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:39,680
because he had experienced his own thing

1273
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,800
a couple of years before

1274
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:42,559
that he had seen something he couldn't

1275
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:44,960
explain and so he knew there was a

1276
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:46,960
possibility that

1277
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:48,960
something was going on there he knew

1278
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:52,720
something happened it was too much

1279
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:55,119
did he ever get into details of what he

1280
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,800
he saw

1281
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,880
well he was on the way home from his

1282
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:00,319
sister's

1283
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:03,440
and um she lived on lake

1284
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,880
i don't know it was like barkley or

1285
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,480
somewhere down that way

1286
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,839
kentucky lake well i think it was

1287
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:09,520
kentucky like anyway he was on his way

1288
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:10,880
home from there

1289
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,000
and um traffic had stopped in the road

1290
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:16,000
i mean there was like i think it was

1291
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,200
like 50 or more

1292
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,920
50 75 or more vehicles just stopped in

1293
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:22,000
the road of course everybody was out

1294
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:23,520
looking at something so of course he

1295
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:25,040
gets out too because it can't go

1296
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,040
anywhere anyway

1297
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:30,800
there in the sky is this huge

1298
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:33,359
flying object of some sort just sitting

1299
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:34,880
there in the sky and not

1300
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,480
moving um

1301
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:41,280
nobody can explain what it is it's some

1302
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,640
kind of craft

1303
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:44,880
and it just sits there and i forget how

1304
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,920
long it sat there it was several minutes

1305
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:49,760
that they all sat there

1306
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:52,880
just watching it do nothing and it

1307
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,280
finally left

1308
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:58,000
so you know they didn't know what it was

1309
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:59,760
nobody could explain what it was and i

1310
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:00,800
don't think anybody

1311
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:04,480
ever did explain what that was that

1312
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:05,839
night

1313
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,240
so he'd see that made him a believer

1314
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:09,920
from the very get-go

1315
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,520
that's why he told the little uh

1316
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:15,359
police officer at station you don't get

1317
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:17,599
everybody together we're going to kelly

1318
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,640
because he knew that there had to be

1319
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:22,400
something happening to this family you

1320
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,200
don't take

1321
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:26,240
11 people especially young children in

1322
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,079
the middle of the night

1323
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,880
to the police station and telling an

1324
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,400
incredible story that something's

1325
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:34,240
happening to them on the farm

1326
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:37,359
you just don't do that yeah not that day

1327
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,240
and time

1328
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,720
mike today no we got some crazies going

1329
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:42,839
on right now but

1330
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:46,400
uh you know back in 55 you didn't do

1331
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:47,280
that you did

1332
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:50,240
my dad would not have had himself

1333
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:51,040
ridiculed

1334
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:53,359
like that and they've been up like that

1335
00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:54,640
for no reason

1336
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:57,760
something happened they were visited by

1337
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:59,280
something

1338
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,520
and greenwool knew that greenville knew

1339
00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:03,359
something had been going on he believed

1340
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:04,920
my grandmother

1341
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:07,119
wholeheartedly that that they were

1342
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,440
visited by something

1343
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,720
yeah now what um did who

1344
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:15,200
who researched this that you know of do

1345
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:17,200
you do you know of any

1346
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:20,079
like single person that actually like

1347
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,520
interviewed

1348
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:24,160
and researched this isn't that what

1349
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:25,119
happened

1350
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:28,319
isabel davis did she went there and

1351
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,230
research on this whole thing you know

1352
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,160
talking to to my grandmother and

1353
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:37,920
everything that happened

1354
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,200
writing down you know making small maps

1355
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,760
and stuff where it all happened even you

1356
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,599
know making drawings of the house

1357
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,200
inside and out you know all the

1358
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,119
surroundings and everything with it

1359
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,359
and talking to all the people she needed

1360
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:53,440
to talk to about this

1361
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:56,960
she did incredible research on it

1362
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:07,030
isabelle davis has did one yes

1363
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,030
i forget what it's called i've got it on

1364
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:11,280
uh a dvd

1365
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:13,599
yeah i forget what it's called but i've

1366
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,480
got it on dvd

1367
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:18,960
now what's it like for you uh we have

1368
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:20,079
four minutes we're going to be going

1369
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:21,119
into the break

1370
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:24,160
but what's it like for you as a a family

1371
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:25,280
member and

1372
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,160
uh i gotta also say what was it like

1373
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:30,480
also for other family members along the

1374
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,040
way

1375
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,440
you know this is many years ago uh you

1376
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:35,599
know 65 years ago

1377
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:38,960
or whatever it is um 65 yeah

1378
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,559
and so along the way um

1379
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:44,079
and we just passed the anniversary

1380
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:45,599
didn't what's the date today

1381
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:48,720
the 25th yeah

1382
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:51,760
have like different press agencies

1383
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,720
like try to revive the story and get in

1384
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:56,800
touch with your family over the years

1385
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:59,520
oh yeah yeah my dad would get contacted

1386
00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:01,359
all the time about it of course he would

1387
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,680
just

1388
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:03,119
shut them off he didn't want anything to

1389
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:04,319
do about it he didn't want to bring it

1390
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:05,359
back up

1391
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,720
yeah um i think this this it was a

1392
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:11,200
fear that stayed with him all the time i

1393
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,000
don't think it ever left him

1394
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,640
before he passed there was this group

1395
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:18,400
from germany

1396
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,400
trying to get in to talk about it and he

1397
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,119
just he just wouldn't do it

1398
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:25,359
uh it was just too scary for him you

1399
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:26,800
know

1400
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,960
i've always said my he was a little man

1401
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:30,400
but he would

1402
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:32,319
fight a bear for what he believed in but

1403
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:35,040
i tell you what this kicked his butt

1404
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:38,240
honey it terrified him yeah

1405
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:40,079
yeah how about that by the way did the

1406
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:43,200
dog ever come out from under the house

1407
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:47,359
actually eventually he had to eat

1408
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:49,839
yeah i i probably stayed under there a

1409
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:50,640
long time

1410
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:53,359
but uh it's really strange because well

1411
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:54,400
one other thing

1412
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,720
you know you mentioned the brushing of

1413
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:58,720
the claw whatever it is on the roof

1414
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:00,960
was there any other actions like that

1415
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:02,880
from these little guys

1416
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:05,280
um that you know hey look at me type of

1417
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,480
thing you know they're

1418
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,559
obviously looking in through the windows

1419
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,559
which is bizarre

1420
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:12,319
i think they're looking in the windows

1421
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,960
and trying to seemingly get through the

1422
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:16,319
doors was enough

1423
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:20,400
but the scraping on the the tin roof was

1424
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:24,160
plenty for all of the day and what about

1425
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,200
wasn't one up in a tree or something oh

1426
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:29,040
yeah they were getting up in the trees

1427
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,240
you know it was like come look at me

1428
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:34,319
i don't know why they were getting up in

1429
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:35,280
the trees

1430
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,559
i don't know if they were trying to jump

1431
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,559
from the trees to the house

1432
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,319
maybe they were trying to i don't know

1433
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:42,000
but they were getting shot

1434
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:45,040
out of the trees i know that and uh

1435
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:48,559
how about how many were there

1436
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,319
of these things that they did they count

1437
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,640
like so many of them well my dad

1438
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,400
said that he always thought it was three

1439
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,160
or four he thought it was

1440
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:57,920
four and what they were doing was once

1441
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:59,280
they got shot they were getting nothing

1442
00:54:01,670 --> 00:54:00,480
coming back

1443
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:01,680
you know i know a lot of times you'll

1444
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:03,760
read maybe like 11 or 12

1445
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:05,760
but he said no no he didn't think it was

1446
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:07,839
that many at all he always thought

1447
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:10,160
it was three or four that was doing all

1448
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:11,359
the chaos

1449
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,160
wow amazing well it's time for us to

1450
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,839
head into the break

1451
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:17,760
this is martin willis and my guest

1452
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:19,040
tonight is

1453
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:22,000
geraldine uh stiff and we're going to be

1454
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:23,599
right back after these messages if

1455
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:24,880
you're on youtube

1456
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:27,440
uh you are going to uh you're going to

1457
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,480
see a clip

1458
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:30,240
i'll play that now so hang in there

1459
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:31,680
everyone we'll be right back right after

1460
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:51,510
in three two one

1461
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:54,400
go all right welcome back uh this is

1462
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:55,839
martin willis and my guest

1463
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:58,480
is geraldine stith and uh we were

1464
00:55:02,549 --> 00:54:59,599
talking about her

1465
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,559
family's well what can i say what type

1466
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:04,559
of an encounter crazy encounter

1467
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,480
uh back in 1955. um so all right

1468
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:10,559
so this happens you're i don't know you

1469
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:12,880
said somewhere around eight years old

1470
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:15,599
and these people knock on the door you

1471
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,880
answer the door and then your father

1472
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:18,240
tells you and then you go out to the

1473
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:19,200
farm

1474
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:22,799
um did this uh was this

1475
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,000
from that time forward um you know

1476
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:28,640
did you talk at least to your siblings

1477
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:29,440
about this

1478
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:32,319
encounter and and was it like alive in

1479
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:34,000
the family or was it hush hush

1480
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:37,280
around dad oh it was hush-hush

1481
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,359
uh i was the oldest of the second bunch

1482
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:44,160
i'd say because both my parents were

1483
00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:45,280
married before

1484
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:48,319
they got married so my mom

1485
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:51,440
had seven kids by her first husband so i

1486
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,160
had seven

1487
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:54,960
older half siblings they never spoke of

1488
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,440
it

1489
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,359
you know they lived in kelly when this

1490
00:56:02,549 --> 00:55:59,119
happened but they did not

1491
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:02,559
talk of it um my dad didn't have any

1492
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,880
more kids we were all he had

1493
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,960
and uh i was the oldest and so the

1494
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,160
younger ones you know

1495
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,559
they were younger and you just didn't

1496
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:12,319
talk about this

1497
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:15,359
and it just wasn't talked about i mean

1498
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:16,000
you brought it

1499
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:19,359
up that's just like

1500
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,680
after this couple came and talked to him

1501
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:23,440
there was this book written

1502
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:26,640
and he got a copy of it and the story

1503
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:27,920
was in this book

1504
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:35,190
no he didn't like even looking at it or

1505
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:36,559
bringing it out

1506
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:39,920
and you know that's just

1507
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:43,599
how it was it was just scary for him

1508
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:45,839
he went through a frightening event and

1509
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,630
want part of it anymore yeah

1510
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:54,720
i can totally get that i understand that

1511
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,839
uh david wanted to know did they have

1512
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:58,240
flashlights and

1513
00:57:01,430 --> 00:57:00,400
uh did the flashlights scare the beings

1514
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:01,440
if they had them

1515
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:04,640
yes well it seemed to

1516
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:07,520
shock you know get them away for a while

1517
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:09,119
because like i said if they

1518
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:13,280
shined it in their eyes they'd back off

1519
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:16,640
so i don't think they were really afraid

1520
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:17,920
of the lights or they

1521
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:20,960
wouldn't have kept coming back yeah but

1522
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:23,760
it was enough that if they shine it in

1523
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,400
their eyes

1524
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:26,640
it affected them in some way it must

1525
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:27,440
have hurt

1526
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:30,559
i guess yeah i can't you know if you

1527
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:31,680
really think about this

1528
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:34,000
and you try to empathize with what's

1529
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,040
going on

1530
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:37,520
i can't imagine anything being more

1531
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,160
scary

1532
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,880
than being in your home and having

1533
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:42,319
something outside you're trying to

1534
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:43,839
protect yourself from

1535
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:46,559
i can't imagine anything more scary than

1536
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:47,280
that

1537
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,480
in uh exactly yeah yeah your home is

1538
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:52,799
your haven it's your safe place

1539
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:55,680
yeah no and back then they left the

1540
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:56,640
windows and doors

1541
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:59,359
open because it was their safe place

1542
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:01,040
back then things just didn't happen

1543
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,640
everybody did that you didn't have air

1544
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:04,079
conditioning

1545
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:07,760
and uh so yeah they didn't

1546
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:11,359
think about something coming up and and

1547
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:12,720
trying to get in the house or trying to

1548
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,480
bother them or whatever they were trying

1549
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:16,319
to do

1550
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:19,440
you know scared now there's a question

1551
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,559
but i'm pretty sure you

1552
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:22,559
kind of answered that did anyone

1553
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:24,559
actually have physical contact

1554
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:27,359
no one did did they no no the closest

1555
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,720
thing that happened was the hand coming

1556
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:31,040
down trying to grab billy ray's hair

1557
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:34,160
that was the closest thing of con that's

1558
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:36,160
bizarre he reached down to try to grab

1559
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:36,799
his hair

1560
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,760
wow and did someone actually shoot at

1561
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:42,000
that time

1562
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:44,160
yeah my dad ran out and shot it off the

1563
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:50,150
shot and it rolled floated away wow

1564
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:52,480
wow another question that came up again

1565
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,680
we're going to open the phone lines here

1566
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:55,520
in another half hour so

1567
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:58,559
um from andy now he usually calls in did

1568
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:01,280
anyone check the area for radiation

1569
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:04,319
or electromagnetic electromagnetic

1570
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:05,200
anomalies

1571
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:08,480
but no one did check anything right no

1572
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:10,160
no one checked anything what about the

1573
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:11,760
army you said the army was there the

1574
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:12,319
next day

1575
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,359
did they bring any equipment with them i

1576
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:17,119
haven't heard of any equipment the only

1577
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:18,319
thing i know they did

1578
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:25,670
i found out later that

1579
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:27,920
they found something i guess they

1580
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:29,599
thought it was of interest

1581
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:31,839
and covered it up real quickly and ran

1582
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:32,640
into a truck

1583
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:34,160
put it in the back and the truck took

1584
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:35,920
off

1585
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:38,319
and that's the only thing i've heard as

1586
00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:39,119
far as

1587
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:41,599
that's concerned with them doing that

1588
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:43,599
after the search was over that morning

1589
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:44,079
that was

1590
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:45,520
it they just didn't do any more they

1591
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:47,599
just plopped it away

1592
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:51,520
tried to get rid of the whole thing and

1593
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:52,799
that's what they were that you know

1594
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:54,000
that's what they're good at it's just

1595
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:55,760
getting rid of

1596
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:58,319
and it was easy to get rid of it was

1597
01:00:02,470 --> 00:59:59,119
easy to get

1598
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:02,480
up what how they did it was they

1599
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:05,599
chalked it up to uneducated and i

1600
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:09,280
hate this i hate this but uneducated

1601
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:10,799
hillbillies

1602
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,559
and that's how we're able to put it to

1603
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,079
rest and throw it away

1604
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:15,920
well that's all that's you know what the

1605
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:17,200
ridicule factor is

1606
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:19,839
belittle and you know attack attack the

1607
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:20,640
people

1608
01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:24,160
um you know to debunk um

1609
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:26,079
and unfortunately that you know that's

1610
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,480
that's sad uh because

1611
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:31,200
you know everybody sees it you know if

1612
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:31,680
you

1613
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,960
look at the the range of who sees ufos

1614
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:35,920
and who

1615
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:39,680
who has uh you know and encounters

1616
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:41,920
it's a range of all people it's not just

1617
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:43,200
one certain type of

1618
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:45,760
person or the way you know someone may

1619
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:47,200
live or whatever and i'm sure they

1620
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:48,079
probably

1621
01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:50,480
use the carnival thing as part of the

1622
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:52,559
ridicule too which is another silly

1623
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,400
oh i'm sure they did and you know

1624
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:56,720
something is sure my dad may have joined

1625
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:58,720
a carnival at 14 but this man could do

1626
01:01:06,549 --> 01:00:59,520
anything

1627
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:06,559
serious he was not stupid by no means

1628
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:09,200
right you know that was part of the hurt

1629
01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:10,240
too

1630
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:12,400
you know you get called stuff like that

1631
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:13,760
it it hurts

1632
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:18,000
you know and it was it was awful on two

1633
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:18,880
accounts

1634
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:21,359
the the whole invasion thing and the

1635
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:23,040
whole ridicule thing

1636
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,680
you know and i do want to talk about

1637
01:01:28,870 --> 01:01:27,359
that a little bit more um

1638
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,880
there's another question was there any

1639
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:30,480
odor at all

1640
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:33,440
of did anyone i i know it's a it's one

1641
01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:34,480
of the questions that

1642
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:37,520
that's asked a lot when someone has an

1643
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:38,000
encounter

1644
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:39,359
if someone's interviewing them if

1645
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:41,040
there's uh you know

1646
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:44,799
all the senses of something and

1647
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:47,520
did anyone mention any type of nobody

1648
01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:49,599
ever mentioned any kind of odor the only

1649
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:50,559
thing i ever

1650
01:01:54,069 --> 01:01:53,599
heard was that it just felt eerie the

1651
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:54,079
area

1652
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:57,760
just felt strange um you know i wish to

1653
01:02:02,230 --> 01:01:58,880
this day

1654
01:02:03,430 --> 01:02:02,240
see my dad died in 95 and i wish to stay

1655
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:03,440
if i'd known what i know

1656
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:05,440
now that i had sat down and really

1657
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:07,039
picked his brain about this whole thing

1658
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:09,119
but at the time in 95 i was scared to

1659
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:10,559
death of this story i didn't want no

1660
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:12,559
part of it either

1661
01:02:18,829 --> 01:02:16,720
and i wish i had of

1662
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:18,839
because he would have been full of good

1663
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:20,079
information

1664
01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:21,599
you know if you could get you know

1665
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:23,039
possibly toward the end of his life he

1666
01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:24,799
may have been able to get

1667
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:27,440
uh um you know a lot out of him who

1668
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:28,799
knows

1669
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:32,319
exactly and i wish i had yeah

1670
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:34,640
yeah well uh it's it's still a

1671
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:35,839
remarkable story and

1672
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:40,000
and now what about let's go into the

1673
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,960
the uh i understand they said it was

1674
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:44,880
monkeys from a circus or

1675
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,640
of course monkeys don't take to getting

1676
01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:48,079
shot too well

1677
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:50,960
um but what what were some of the

1678
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:52,559
stories that you heard

1679
01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:54,160
when people were trying to explain away

1680
01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:56,319
this is nothing besides

1681
01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:58,480
unfortunately the hillbilly take on it

1682
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,960
yeah the whole owl thing the owls was

1683
01:03:04,630 --> 01:03:02,000
the top one i guess

1684
01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:04,640
because there's yeah there's an owl that

1685
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,200
gets about three foot tall

1686
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:09,599
but same as the monkey it it would have

1687
01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:12,079
gotten hit and splattered everywhere

1688
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:15,119
with cats they said that somebody

1689
01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:16,559
some neighbors or somebody was throwing

1690
01:03:26,950 --> 01:03:24,549
there's actually a there's a

1691
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:26,960
there's a connection some people make a

1692
01:03:31,349 --> 01:03:28,240
connection of

1693
01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:31,359
not not just one but um mike uh

1694
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:33,440
clelland i think his name is but there

1695
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:34,720
are people that make a connection

1696
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:35,280
between

1697
01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:38,400
this whole ufo thing and owls

1698
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:41,839
ironically yeah yeah yeah they do

1699
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,880
but still you've got a 20 and a 12 gate

1700
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:46,720
shotgun at 22 rifle that's shooting

1701
01:03:50,230 --> 01:03:48,000
these things and there's going to be

1702
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,240
blood somewhere

1703
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:52,480
and owls are not going to taunt anyone

1704
01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:53,920
either they're not gonna

1705
01:03:57,029 --> 01:03:55,599
exactly they're not going to be three of

1706
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:57,039
them they always hunt alone

1707
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:59,119
you know i mean that that type of thing

1708
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:01,119
of course there's a whole thing that

1709
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:03,440
there was uh somebody that's playing a

1710
01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:04,720
prank on them

1711
01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:06,720
and of course the same thing here they

1712
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:07,760
were shooting everywhere

1713
01:04:11,349 --> 01:04:09,839
there's somebody out in those woods who

1714
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:11,359
probably would have gotten hit

1715
01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:12,960
that's why the neighbor went back in the

1716
01:04:16,470 --> 01:04:15,119
house i'm surprised

1717
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:16,480
the one thing that surprised me i know

1718
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:18,400
it's a different time and

1719
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:21,200
uh but if i heard a bunch of gunshots at

1720
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:22,799
a neighbor's house i'd call the police

1721
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:23,760
immediately

1722
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:26,319
but no one did that obviously they

1723
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:27,119
didn't

1724
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,280
i don't know if it's because well they

1725
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:31,280
may have not had a way to do it

1726
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:33,119
you know you think that the only thing

1727
01:04:37,109 --> 01:04:35,760
my family had in the house was a radio

1728
01:04:39,029 --> 01:04:37,119
they didn't have any kind of other

1729
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:39,039
communication that was

1730
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:42,000
it a radio they didn't have a tv yet or

1731
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:43,039
any of that

1732
01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:45,760
okay you know these were this was a poor

1733
01:04:48,710 --> 01:04:46,799
farming family they

1734
01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:48,720
haven't done that stuff so you know the

1735
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:50,319
others around them may not have had it

1736
01:04:54,069 --> 01:04:50,960
either

1737
01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:54,079
you know how about that i never even

1738
01:04:57,829 --> 01:04:56,240
never even crossed my mind that there

1739
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:57,839
was no way to

1740
01:05:01,829 --> 01:05:01,200
um call the police how traumatized were

1741
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:01,839
the children

1742
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:03,599
after the incident stephen asks that

1743
01:05:09,750 --> 01:05:05,839
question

1744
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:09,760
they're very traumatized yeah yeah

1745
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:12,559
uh i'm sure they went through a lot as

1746
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:13,839
children

1747
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:15,760
you know they don't talk about it today

1748
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,599
and i'm sure part of that is because

1749
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:19,359
i'm sure that when they went to school

1750
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:21,280
they probably got

1751
01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:24,400
you know how cruel kids can be oh yeah

1752
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:27,920
uh as far as you know was the story all

1753
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:30,160
around like in school

1754
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:32,640
i'm sure it was it had to be back in i

1755
01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:33,839
mean it was the thing

1756
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:37,039
i mean that was big news this was

1757
01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:37,920
something that put

1758
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:40,079
hopkins still kelly on the map at the

1759
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:41,359
time wow

1760
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:43,039
and they were going into school just a

1761
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:44,720
couple of days after that probably

1762
01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:47,359
yeah yeah i mean this is august so they

1763
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:49,520
had started school already

1764
01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:52,640
and uh yeah i'm sure that there was a

1765
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:53,760
lot of that

1766
01:06:01,029 --> 01:06:00,230
i'd hate to think what they went through

1767
01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:01,039
really

1768
01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:04,480
especially the kids and what uh

1769
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:06,000
you know you mentioned the cat thing the

1770
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:07,520
owl thing um

1771
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:10,240
to this day are are people still trying

1772
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:11,440
to debunk

1773
01:06:17,910 --> 01:06:14,559
this i haven't looked personally but um

1774
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:17,920
what do you see out there like say on i

1775
01:06:21,910 --> 01:06:18,720
don't know

1776
01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:21,920
social media or whatever about this case

1777
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:25,039
i think people have given up

1778
01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:27,920
with you i haven't seen anything you

1779
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:30,079
know of course you got your random well

1780
01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:32,400
it was a howl or it was a lucky thing

1781
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:34,319
but you know they can't prove it they

1782
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:36,240
can't you know prove it was

1783
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,640
any of those things so i think people

1784
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:40,000
kind of have

1785
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:42,640
given up it's taken on a life of itself

1786
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:43,760
actually

1787
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:47,839
and it's really getting out there now

1788
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:49,440
you know we i don't know if you know it

1789
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:51,359
but we have a festival every year now

1790
01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:52,880
because of this

1791
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:56,000
oh okay is it right on the date

1792
01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:58,799
no we can't they it it's yeah because it

1793
01:07:01,829 --> 01:06:59,599
changes every

1794
01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:01,839
yeah so it's like a weekend thing or

1795
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:03,280
something it's a weekend thing it's the

1796
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:04,559
third weekend

1797
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:06,720
of august every year of course we

1798
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:08,079
couldn't have it this year and this

1799
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:11,280
would have been our 10th anniversary

1800
01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:13,039
we were actually in a really big

1801
01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:15,599
festival this year for the 10th year but

1802
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:17,839
guess what yeah because we kind of

1803
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:18,960
changed that

1804
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:21,680
yeah um this question we already

1805
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:22,720
answered this question

1806
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,440
stephen um there is there is a couple of

1807
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:27,280
witnesses left but they

1808
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:28,720
they don't they don't want to talk about

1809
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:31,760
it is that is that what you said earlier

1810
01:07:36,309 --> 01:07:35,440
three actually yeah three youngest kids

1811
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:36,319
are all still

1812
01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:39,200
uh yeah but they don't want to this is

1813
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:41,119
something they're not interested in

1814
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:43,200
speaking about yeah like i said the

1815
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:44,960
older one my uncle

1816
01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:47,119
lonnie he's the oldest and he used to

1817
01:07:50,950 --> 01:07:48,799
talk about it some

1818
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:50,960
um especially when the festival first

1819
01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:52,480
started

1820
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:56,559
um but now he just doesn't he he's had

1821
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:57,599
some

1822
01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,520
physical problems and like i said he's

1823
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:01,680
getting close to 80 and

1824
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:03,599
i think he just doesn't feel he can do

1825
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:06,079
it justice probably anymore because i

1826
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:06,559
think

1827
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:08,400
you know like all of us as we get older

1828
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:11,200
we get a little forgetful about things

1829
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:14,400
and i think he just he's seen me take it

1830
01:08:16,709 --> 01:08:14,880
over

1831
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:16,719
and do with it so i think he's happy

1832
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:18,560
with that and um

1833
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,600
he's just letting it be did uh did he

1834
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:23,440
was he interviewed a lot

1835
01:08:28,789 --> 01:08:25,520
when he was talking about it it was for

1836
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:32,149
especially around 2005

1837
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:39,349
anniversary of the incident he

1838
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:41,759
talked a few times with different uh

1839
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:43,839
documentary people and stuff like that

1840
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:48,640
did interviews but it was back then and

1841
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:52,239
you know he just doesn't do much with it

1842
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:54,000
now um you know getting back to where

1843
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:55,920
we're talking about earlier the

1844
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:58,319
the kind of the debunking of it has

1845
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:59,279
anyone

1846
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:01,120
ever like tried to make a claim this

1847
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:02,640
never happened at all

1848
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:04,239
no have you ever heard anything like

1849
01:09:08,149 --> 01:09:05,920
that now what about this is a good point

1850
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:08,159
here was there a police report

1851
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:10,080
yes there is a police report i don't

1852
01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:11,359
know where it is i'd love to get my

1853
01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:12,560
hands on it

1854
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:15,679
um but yeah there was a police report

1855
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:17,759
yes definitely i mean they went out

1856
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:19,359
there that night so

1857
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,480
surely i didn't make a report but yeah

1858
01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:24,480
yeah uh this is uh interesting and

1859
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:26,080
remember in chat please put your

1860
01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:29,759
uh questions in caps so i catch them and

1861
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:33,120
let's see this one right here um

1862
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:35,440
do you know if any family members regret

1863
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:37,040
reaching out

1864
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:38,719
uh to the beings and taking a different

1865
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:40,400
approach than they did

1866
01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:43,359
oh no they don't regret it at all i

1867
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:45,920
could be scared to death i mean

1868
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:47,040
you know for a while there my

1869
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:49,199
grandmother you know

1870
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:50,880
thought something was wrong but i think

1871
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:52,719
after a while she realized that you know

1872
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:54,400
when they kept coming and kept coming

1873
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,920
especially after that second time

1874
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:57,840
because when they

1875
01:10:01,669 --> 01:10:00,800
left to go to hopkinsville and they came

1876
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:01,679
back

1877
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,440
they had a little free time in there

1878
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:05,600
where they didn't bother on

1879
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,640
and uh my grandmother was laying there

1880
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,400
in bed with my dad beside her in a

1881
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:12,800
rocking chair shotgun across his lap

1882
01:10:18,070 --> 01:10:16,080
and they came back that second round and

1883
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:18,080
i think that second round really did her

1884
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:19,440
in

1885
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:22,960
oops um wow uh yeah

1886
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:25,920
the time yeah the gap and then they come

1887
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:28,400
back that must have seemed like a total

1888
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,960
total nightmare and it had because it

1889
01:10:33,910 --> 01:10:32,480
lasted the rest of the night till the

1890
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:33,920
sun came up so

1891
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:35,679
like a long period of time where they

1892
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:38,400
were thinning them off again

1893
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:41,199
i can't imagine going from the house to

1894
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:43,199
the truck if you watch horror movies

1895
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,990
i mean and they watched behind them the

1896
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:51,360
ones that were in the back

1897
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,760
they watched behind on the whole way

1898
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:55,440
because they were afraid that they were

1899
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:56,159
gonna come

1900
01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:59,199
with them i'm sure yeah

1901
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,880
and what about looking around did they

1902
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:02,320
try to look around to see if they could

1903
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:03,440
see anything

1904
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:06,239
like a craft or the beings as they were

1905
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:07,840
driving out of the yard

1906
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:09,440
no they were just ready to get away from

1907
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:13,040
there jim didn't want to crack

1908
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:15,600
they did come back i really am i mean i

1909
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:17,679
would have come back with a force of uh

1910
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:19,679
police officers or something

1911
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:22,640
yeah you know after they left them there

1912
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,920
was nothing they could do

1913
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:25,280
you know there wasn't nothing there to

1914
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:28,239
prove no bodies or anything to proof

1915
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:30,560
they'd shot them whoa

1916
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,800
god yeah what would you do today i mean

1917
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:34,800
that's that's the question i mean

1918
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:36,719
what how would the reaction if this

1919
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:38,560
happened today be

1920
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:40,480
you know first of all we have cell

1921
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:41,760
phones you can take pictures

1922
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,880
we have uh phones we can call the police

1923
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:46,400
it'll be a total total different

1924
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:48,800
situation um let's see we have this

1925
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:50,159
question here

1926
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:53,760
uh on the drawings um do you know

1927
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:55,360
have any i mean there's no way of

1928
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,840
telling because they're all

1929
01:12:01,590 --> 01:11:59,360
you know different drawings and you

1930
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:01,600
can't compare them to the real

1931
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:04,880
whatever it was that they saw but um

1932
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:06,800
do they did they agree among themselves

1933
01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:09,520
which drawing was closest to the

1934
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:12,080
world i don't know that i never even

1935
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:13,360
thought about that

1936
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:16,400
um they're all so similar you know

1937
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:18,960
yeah they are the thing they said was

1938
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:19,840
billy ray's

1939
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:23,120
was was the one with the the the the abs

1940
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,800
if you notice one of the drawings one of

1941
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:26,159
them has abs

1942
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:28,640
oh yeah they said you know i'll be the

1943
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:29,199
right kind

1944
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:32,080
of but they think you kind of dig that

1945
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:32,400
in

1946
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:35,440
on that yeah i'll try to pull up some of

1947
01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:41,270
uh richard has this question has the

1948
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:42,400
family

1949
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:46,960
other sightings or strange experiences

1950
01:12:50,709 --> 01:12:49,679
that you know about not that i know uh

1951
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:50,719
but even if they

1952
01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:52,880
did they probably wouldn't talk about it

1953
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:54,239
i'll be honest with you

1954
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:57,600
yeah great too yeah now what about

1955
01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:00,800
uh you mentioned go ahead i'm sorry

1956
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:02,800
it'd be a nightmare again for them so i

1957
01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:04,239
don't think

1958
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:07,920
if they had they would speak a word

1959
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:10,080
what about um so you wouldn't even know

1960
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:11,840
like the new family members that bought

1961
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:12,960
the farm

1962
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:16,320
um if anything ever happened again there

1963
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:19,760
you know was it no they never have came

1964
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:23,199
forward with anything going on there

1965
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:26,080
now the farm is is chopped up you know

1966
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:26,800
it was

1967
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,640
close to 30 acres and it's like

1968
01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:32,800
five different people own it now you

1969
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:34,239
know it's chopped up into different

1970
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:34,960
acreage

1971
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:37,280
in fact my sister and her husband just

1972
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:38,800
bought five acres of it

1973
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:41,040
so five acres of it's back in the family

1974
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:47,669
yeah but you know different people live

1975
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:50,560
on splotches of it now

1976
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:52,800
now i don't know uh we talked about this

1977
01:13:57,590 --> 01:13:55,440
earlier esoteric gold

1978
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:57,600
is asking some questions that we've

1979
01:14:02,310 --> 01:13:59,600
already discussed i do believe

1980
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:02,320
but were there um i don't know if this

1981
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:03,360
one in particular

1982
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:05,440
were there any other animals on the farm

1983
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:07,600
besides the dogs

1984
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:10,640
cats and a few farm animals yeah did the

1985
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:11,679
farm animals

1986
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:13,679
make noises that you're aware of or

1987
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:15,760
react that i know of

1988
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:17,840
i don't think they would have noticed it

1989
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,800
they were so afraid

1990
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:22,640
of these things trying to get to the

1991
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:24,000
house i don't think they would have

1992
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:25,600
noticed anything going on with any of

1993
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:27,520
the animals to be honest with you

1994
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:30,560
a lot of it starts a lot of encounters

1995
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:33,600
they hear the animals first and then

1996
01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:36,719
you know the encounter said anything the

1997
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:38,640
only thing that was ever spoke of was

1998
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:41,120
that hound dog running by him with his

1999
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:43,840
tail tucked and ears down running like

2000
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:44,960
he was scared

2001
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:46,960
under the you know under the house and

2002
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:48,640
never coming back out

2003
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:51,440
yes so that was only thing that was ever

2004
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:53,520
said about any of the animals

2005
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:56,480
yeah yeah well uh this is exciting i

2006
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:57,760
think we're going to open up the line

2007
01:15:02,550 --> 01:14:59,679
since we're getting a lot of questions

2008
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:02,560
i think uh let me just find out if uh

2009
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:02,960
bill

2010
01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:06,560
is uh is ready for that but um

2011
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:10,159
as you go through um life now

2012
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:12,960
are are people contacting you i know

2013
01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:14,159
you're kind of a

2014
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:16,320
a central figure in the festival and

2015
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:17,920
because of that are people reaching out

2016
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:18,320
to you

2017
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:21,760
i mean i think i may have

2018
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:23,600
reached out to you because of uh finding

2019
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:25,440
you that way

2020
01:15:29,430 --> 01:15:26,880
yeah well actually no you were on

2021
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:29,440
another podcast that's what it was

2022
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:33,520
yeah yes

2023
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:37,040
yeah yeah people like all day today i've

2024
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:38,000
been talking to different

2025
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:40,239
people i mean there's something today

2026
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:41,280
how about that

2027
01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:43,360
yeah there's been there's somebody want

2028
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:45,199
to do a documentary

2029
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:48,719
um another podcast is in the air

2030
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:51,280
uh i'm i'm scheduled out with podcasts

2031
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:52,960
for

2032
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:56,080
months ahead is that right wow yeah

2033
01:15:59,189 --> 01:15:57,840
yeah well i'm honored that you were able

2034
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,199
to do tonight

2035
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:01,040
yeah you know i think that part of it is

2036
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:02,480
because you know

2037
01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:04,000
that's what people are doing now i mean

2038
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:05,520
this has become a great thing for you

2039
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:06,000
guys

2040
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:07,760
because people are sitting home and

2041
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:09,679
listening to podcasts and watching stuff

2042
01:16:12,709 --> 01:16:10,719
like this

2043
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:12,719
yes i have requests all the time people

2044
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:14,560
ask me to do more than one podcast a

2045
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:19,030
yeah you're right it's a captured

2046
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:20,640
audience and that's why i've been uh

2047
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:21,520
pushing uh

2048
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:24,080
a friend of mine that has a really good

2049
01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:25,600
film that a lot of people

2050
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:28,640
in this field are waiting to watch

2051
01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:30,640
and i keep bagging them on this is a

2052
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:39,830
it's been years since another a good

2053
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:42,159
documentary has been done on this

2054
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:45,040
so you know if he anybody they could do

2055
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:45,360
a

2056
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:58,320
now did like unsolved mysteries or

2057
01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:00,159
anything like that ever do

2058
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:03,120
something on this yeah there's there

2059
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:03,920
i've done

2060
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:05,840
several tv shows actually and there's

2061
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:07,760
another one coming out here soon

2062
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:11,199
in in the fall for well i'm not supposed

2063
01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:12,719
to talk about it

2064
01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:14,239
but the travel channel's got a new one

2065
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:17,120
coming out town halls got something

2066
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:17,760
coming out

2067
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:20,000
so you know i can't tell you the name or

2068
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:21,520
anything but you'll find out here soon

2069
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:22,800
we did one for them here

2070
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,920
back a few months ago we got it filmed

2071
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:27,920
and so it's getting ready

2072
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:31,440
and i've done mysteries at the museum

2073
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:34,000
and monsters and mysteries and of course

2074
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:35,920
they pop up on other stuff too you know

2075
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:37,920
they trade them around

2076
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,360
and uh but yeah

2077
01:17:44,470 --> 01:17:43,440
people love the story they love hearing

2078
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:44,480
about it

2079
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:50,159
yeah like i said there's no there's none

2080
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:51,440
other that i know of

2081
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:54,480
uh we have a caller we have joe um he is

2082
01:17:58,790 --> 01:17:56,840
calling from michigan joe welcome to the

2083
01:18:02,070 --> 01:17:58,800
show

2084
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:02,080
hey martin how you doing um yeah i

2085
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:04,000
wanted to mention that uh

2086
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:07,120
geraldine first had uh spoke

2087
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:09,120
that when they first saw the craft they

2088
01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:10,560
had mentioned the uh

2089
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:12,400
like sparklers coming out of the back of

2090
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:14,320
it or rainbow

2091
01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:18,480
that was that was uh something in the uh

2092
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,159
2013 southern ontario close encounter

2093
01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:23,920
a very close encounter in southern

2094
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:26,960
ontario that was uh heavily uh

2095
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:29,920
researched by mufon and was their 2016

2096
01:18:33,669 --> 01:18:31,280
incident of the year

2097
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:33,679
even though it happened in 2013. and

2098
01:18:36,229 --> 01:18:34,719
when she said that

2099
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:36,239
and just like to tell her it's those

2100
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:37,520
little things like that are very

2101
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:38,800
important

2102
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:41,360
because the minute she said that i

2103
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:42,159
mentioned

2104
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:43,520
about the sparklers coming out of the

2105
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:45,199
back of the craft it's really part of

2106
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:47,440
the propulsion system i believe a plasma

2107
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:48,800
type of thing

2108
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:50,800
and it was heavy it was it was uh

2109
01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:53,120
heavily talked about in by mufon

2110
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:56,159
and researched uh and when she mentioned

2111
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:56,880
that

2112
01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:00,239
told me

2113
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:02,080
that in all probability as far as i'm

2114
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:04,080
concerned this was a real event

2115
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:07,520
that that that one that one point of it

2116
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:10,640
told me that most likely a real event

2117
01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:12,560
yeah it seems like there's mentioning

2118
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:15,280
that another piece to the puzzle

2119
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:18,000
obviously um any any question joe or

2120
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:20,640
just want to make that statement

2121
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:23,040
no i just i just wanted to tell her that

2122
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:24,080
it's surprising

2123
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:26,880
that that that the that one thing she

2124
01:19:29,390 --> 01:19:27,840
mentioned

2125
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:29,400
that she might have thought was maybe

2126
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:31,600
inconsequential to me and

2127
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:35,280
from my research told me that wow

2128
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:38,640
this that to me tells me it was real

2129
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:41,520
yeah it was a real event all right hey

2130
01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:42,400
joe thank you

2131
01:19:46,390 --> 01:19:44,960
the uh of the be okay thank you thank

2132
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:46,400
you i didn't mean to cut you off

2133
01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:50,159
um appreciate it and uh next we have uh

2134
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:51,199
we have a caller

2135
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:53,199
michael calling from cincinnati welcome

2136
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:58,470
hi there hi how are you a little to the

2137
01:20:02,070 --> 01:19:59,040
show

2138
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:02,080
but uh i apologize i

2139
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:04,080
she may have already answered this hello

2140
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:05,520
geraldine martin

2141
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:08,800
michael hi there hi

2142
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:10,719
my question well you mentioned there was

2143
01:20:14,470 --> 01:20:12,800
another woman about 20 years old and

2144
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:14,480
maybe a 15 year old

2145
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:18,400
lady too present well

2146
01:20:22,149 --> 01:20:20,880
actually june taylor was only like 18 or

2147
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:22,159
19.

2148
01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:25,679
um will they

2149
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:33,990
we cannot find june taylor or

2150
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:38,000
billy ray taylor um we don't know

2151
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,239
what happened i know june made the

2152
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:42,560
statement that

2153
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:45,120
she would never come back to kentucky

2154
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:46,000
that scared her

2155
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:49,199
so bad that she said she would

2156
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:52,400
never never come back to kentucky so i i

2157
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:53,760
we don't know where they're at if

2158
01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:55,760
they're still alive even

2159
01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:58,639
um and you say there were three children

2160
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:00,320
hiding under the bed

2161
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:03,520
yes did any of those children see the

2162
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:07,840
the beings well lonnie my oldest

2163
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:12,800
uncle he said that he actually

2164
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:14,560
got off my bed and went to the window

2165
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:16,239
and looked out the window and peeked and

2166
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:24,310
and he was 12. so he said he did and he

2167
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:26,480
did see one of them

2168
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:29,440
um he has totally from him and uh

2169
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:31,760
anybody else that's still alive for this

2170
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:33,520
documentary would be great

2171
01:21:37,430 --> 01:21:36,159
i mean besides the original three right

2172
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:37,440
you know there are

2173
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:40,239
uh from the children there are a few

2174
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:40,800
people

2175
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:43,120
like there is this one man billy thomas

2176
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:45,120
he was a neighbor at the time

2177
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:47,840
he was only 14 when this happened he's

2178
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:50,320
still alive and he can talk about it

2179
01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:53,600
he has actually been in some some stuff

2180
01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:56,639
that we've done here recently he's a

2181
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:57,520
really good

2182
01:22:02,149 --> 01:22:00,960
friends with my dad my dad actually

2183
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:02,159
taught him how to shoot

2184
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:06,320
how to hunt and um

2185
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:09,520
but there are a few that were young back

2186
01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:10,080
then that

2187
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:12,159
are still alive that do remember it

2188
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:13,760
happening

2189
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:16,480
billy thomas was actually like i said a

2190
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:17,280
neighbor and he

2191
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:20,560
actually saw him and a friend of his saw

2192
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:23,760
the lights in the sky that night and was

2193
01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:27,280
hearing the commotion at the house

2194
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:30,639
and um and and you know

2195
01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:34,480
talked to my dad about it and

2196
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,560
he was really good really good

2197
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:40,320
all right hey michael thanks for the

2198
01:22:44,629 --> 01:22:42,239
call we have a lot of calls lining

2199
01:22:47,030 --> 01:22:44,639
right up right after the other i can

2200
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:47,040
also tell you that

2201
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:53,440
um the day after

2202
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:54,880
the next day something like that because

2203
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:56,639
after this event happened my dad and

2204
01:23:01,590 --> 01:22:58,560
them didn't leave right away to go back

2205
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:01,600
to work they stayed a little bit longer

2206
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:06,239
and um billy went down to the house

2207
01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:09,520
and my dad got a ladder went up on the

2208
01:23:14,709 --> 01:23:11,280
roof

2209
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,719
and showed him where the little being up

2210
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:16,800
there had made

2211
01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:20,400
scratches across so he actually

2212
01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:25,040
seen that himself yeah how about that

2213
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:26,719
did anyone ever say to your father you

2214
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:33,270
i think they'd be afraid to say that to

2215
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:35,199
him actually

2216
01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:37,679
all right uh we have sarah from

2217
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:39,199
washington state welcome to the show

2218
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:46,830
hello sarah there you are you're kind of

2219
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:49,679
yes uh so

2220
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:52,880
i also came in a little late uh so i

2221
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:54,480
apologize if this was

2222
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,480
answered just like the previous guy but

2223
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:58,400
um i was wondering

2224
01:24:01,510 --> 01:24:00,880
a little bit more about the creatures

2225
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:01,520
how are you

2226
01:24:07,189 --> 01:24:04,719
able to tell that they were green

2227
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:07,199
um was it like when light shone on them

2228
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:08,400
and also

2229
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:10,960
was there some kind of animal that we

2230
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:12,960
know of that you can compare to it like

2231
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:13,760
reptilian

2232
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:16,800
reptiles make a snake or whatever

2233
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:19,840
also i wanted to know um

2234
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:22,000
looking back in hindsight what do you

2235
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:22,960
think they wanted

2236
01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:25,120
from you my impression is that they were

2237
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:27,199
kind of little tricksters

2238
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:29,920
but um and i can hear your answers out

2239
01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:30,800
there

2240
01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:37,110
um they were they were shining

2241
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:38,159
flashlights

2242
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:41,520
so they could see them of course the

2243
01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:43,120
porch light was shining too in front of

2244
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:43,760
the house

2245
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:45,280
so they were able to see these little

2246
01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:47,120
things and they weren't green they were

2247
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:48,320
a gray

2248
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:50,880
they always said a gun metal gray

2249
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:52,400
whatever you want to call it gunmetal

2250
01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:53,760
gray but

2251
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:56,560
they were gray little green men came in

2252
01:25:02,149 --> 01:24:59,120
from a reporter and it just kind of

2253
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:02,159
took hold and just went wild because you

2254
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:03,040
have

2255
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:05,760
the color kelly green so it was easier

2256
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,000
to say kelly greenman than kelly gray

2257
01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:10,320
man it just rolls off the tongue better

2258
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:12,719
and that's where that came from

2259
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:16,560
but they were gray um

2260
01:25:24,830 --> 01:25:20,560
now as far as a reptilian

2261
01:25:27,189 --> 01:25:24,840
i just i just can't think of anything

2262
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:27,199
that that would look like

2263
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:29,520
as far as a reptilian because reptilians

2264
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:32,000
usually crawl on four legs on the ground

2265
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:32,800
and these were

2266
01:25:38,709 --> 01:25:35,840
you know on two legs standing so

2267
01:25:40,229 --> 01:25:38,719
i i don't know about that anyway we've

2268
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:40,239
got our

2269
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:43,040
i forgot the third question uh let me

2270
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:43,920
see if she's in

2271
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:45,840
sarah if you happen to be in chat uh

2272
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:47,440
please put your third question

2273
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:50,960
in um i should have written them down um

2274
01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:53,600
but anyway uh sorry about that and we

2275
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:54,080
have uh

2276
01:26:00,870 --> 01:25:56,960
andy calling from connecticut andy

2277
01:26:07,270 --> 01:26:04,790
andy there hi martin hi yeah

2278
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:07,280
you have a question for our guest andy

2279
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:09,440
hi folks yes my question for geraldine

2280
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:12,960
is uh two two quick things is uh

2281
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:15,199
did the ship that they arrived on the

2282
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:17,679
craft did it hover nearby

2283
01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:20,320
did it hover in the air did it land and

2284
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:21,199
then

2285
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:23,520
the other question was do any of her

2286
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:24,239
relatives

2287
01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:28,000
remember any uh telepathic messages of

2288
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:30,320
any kind because that's often associated

2289
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:31,280
with

2290
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:33,600
you know the overwhelming majority of

2291
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:35,679
alien contact

2292
01:26:40,390 --> 01:26:38,639
events are telepathic and uh good show

2293
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:40,400
as always and i'll take the

2294
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:42,560
answer off the air guys all right andy

2295
01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:47,750
as far as i know it didn't hover it went

2296
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:49,760
across the sky when billy ray's seen it

2297
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:50,080
now

2298
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:52,080
he did not stay out there long enough to

2299
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:53,440
see where it went

2300
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:55,120
that was the thing that's why they

2301
01:27:02,390 --> 01:26:58,480
didn't know it had landed in the back

2302
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:02,400
um and i forgot what the other question

2303
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:03,840
was already my brain's

2304
01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:07,440
dying on me tonight oh my god i just

2305
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:09,040
started reading something in the chat

2306
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:10,239
and i totally

2307
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:13,679
blew the last part of the question

2308
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:17,040
also i gotta write these down because i

2309
01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:17,440
was

2310
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,600
keeping track of it and started reading

2311
01:27:23,669 --> 01:27:20,880
my mistake

2312
01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:23,679
uh i guess we i guess i only have the

2313
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:25,360
capability to take one

2314
01:27:29,189 --> 01:27:27,840
oh yes thank you telepathy you already

2315
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:29,199
mentioned that there was no

2316
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:32,560
no telepathy yes no telepathy uh

2317
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,880
they if there was they were ignoring it

2318
01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:36,560
let me tell you because

2319
01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:39,199
they were not sitting still long enough

2320
01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:40,639
to pay attention to see if there was

2321
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:42,400
anything going on in the mind and they

2322
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:44,159
didn't even think about things like that

2323
01:27:47,669 --> 01:27:44,880
i mean

2324
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:47,679
yeah but the only communication this

2325
01:27:52,629 --> 01:27:49,360
family had was a radio

2326
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:52,639
and the neighbors and what was

2327
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:54,800
between them and they didn't know

2328
01:27:57,510 --> 01:27:56,080
anything about this

2329
01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:57,520
they didn't have the money to go to the

2330
01:28:00,709 --> 01:27:59,199
movies and at the time you gotta think

2331
01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:00,719
55

2332
01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:03,920
the ufo stuff extraterrestrial stuff was

2333
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:04,800
just

2334
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:07,120
now coming out and they didn't know

2335
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:08,320
anything about that

2336
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:10,560
so they wouldn't know what telepathy was

2337
01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:12,080
i really don't think

2338
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:14,480
to be honest yeah i mean it would either

2339
01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:17,040
happen or not you know basically

2340
01:28:22,149 --> 01:28:20,239
and yeah and yeah

2341
01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:22,159
what happened they wouldn't have known

2342
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:24,639
that it was happening to them i'm sure

2343
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:27,679
yeah yeah absolutely all right uh we

2344
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:28,960
have uh stephen

2345
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:32,480
in california welcome to the show steven

2346
01:28:40,229 --> 01:28:36,159
hi martin uh hi jeredian hi

2347
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:40,239
uh hi i'm curious having family

2348
01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:43,520
have such a close encounter uh

2349
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:46,000
is this did this direct you to

2350
01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:48,000
interested in ufos

2351
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:50,320
and uh and maybe a search for answers

2352
01:28:54,629 --> 01:28:51,600
and what's your

2353
01:28:55,189 --> 01:28:54,639
thoughts on what's going on uh currently

2354
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:55,199
with you

2355
01:29:00,149 --> 01:28:57,920
the ufo on the news and what's going on

2356
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:00,159
and everything

2357
01:29:11,590 --> 01:29:08,870
i was a sci-fi girl i love sci-fi and

2358
01:29:14,070 --> 01:29:11,600
horror so

2359
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:14,080
when this story come up it started and i

2360
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:15,840
heard about it and this happened to my

2361
01:29:21,669 --> 01:29:17,760
family it scared me to death

2362
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:21,679
so guess what alien movies alien shows

2363
01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:23,440
and stuff scare me

2364
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:25,920
even to this day if it's a certain kind

2365
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:27,520
like an abduction

2366
01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:29,280
movie or something like that it really

2367
01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:31,679
really bothers me i don't like watching

2368
01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:32,239
them

2369
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:35,440
yeah so that's kind of like oh

2370
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,639
you know and far as

2371
01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:40,719
what's going on today in the news in the

2372
01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:43,040
world it's about time they start talking

2373
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:45,600
about this stuff because it's out there

2374
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,960
you know a lot of people don't want to

2375
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:49,199
believe it i mean

2376
01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:53,360
believe me i get it when i do festivals

2377
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:55,760
and stuff because i have people come up

2378
01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:56,880
to me

2379
01:30:01,430 --> 01:29:59,360
and it's so crazy i have people come to

2380
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:01,440
me and tell me that i don't believe in

2381
01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:03,360
god because i believe in aliens and

2382
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:04,480
stuff like that

2383
01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,159
and it's it's just outlandish because

2384
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:10,560
you've got this these people that

2385
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:12,400
believe we're it and there's nothing

2386
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:12,960
else

2387
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:15,199
you know you got this vast universe out

2388
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:17,440
there with millions of planets and stars

2389
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:18,320
that yet

2390
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:22,320
we're it come on get real you know

2391
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:24,800
there's got to be more stuff out there

2392
01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:26,639
so i'm glad they're starting to bring

2393
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:29,600
this stuff out and

2394
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:32,560
maybe people will take it seriously now

2395
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:34,560
and realize that we are not

2396
01:30:41,669 --> 01:30:38,320
hit i think we're heading that way

2397
01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:41,679
um anything else stephen

2398
01:30:45,830 --> 01:30:44,159
oh uh you know just thank you for your

2399
01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:45,840
courage to speak out

2400
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:48,400
and keep the story it's a very important

2401
01:30:52,149 --> 01:30:49,120
incident

2402
01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:52,159
that should be kept going and told and

2403
01:30:55,189 --> 01:30:54,800
god bless you oh thank you i appreciate

2404
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:55,199
that

2405
01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:58,560
thank you all right thank you bye bye

2406
01:31:01,990 --> 01:31:00,800
uh we have uh sarah who called in

2407
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:02,000
earlier she was kind

2408
01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:04,800
enough to put her last question in there

2409
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:05,199
and

2410
01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:07,280
uh looking back hindsight what do you

2411
01:31:11,430 --> 01:31:08,880
think they want

2412
01:31:12,390 --> 01:31:11,440
wanted from you uh did they seem like

2413
01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:12,400
tricksters

2414
01:31:18,470 --> 01:31:15,440
okay yeah and i remember that one uh

2415
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:18,480
we don't know maybe that's what they

2416
01:31:22,629 --> 01:31:18,880
were

2417
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:22,639
maybe that's i had

2418
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:25,199
i went to a ufo convention and i had

2419
01:31:29,590 --> 01:31:26,239
somebody tell me

2420
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:29,600
that they think that it was the kids

2421
01:31:32,709 --> 01:31:30,880
they were attached to

2422
01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:32,719
because they were small the kids were

2423
01:31:36,629 --> 01:31:34,239
small my

2424
01:31:38,709 --> 01:31:36,639
aunt mary was little bitty tiny things

2425
01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:38,719
so was my uncle charlton

2426
01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:41,679
and uh that could have been maybe they

2427
01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:42,880
just wanted to play

2428
01:31:47,669 --> 01:31:45,280
maybe this longer cannot play but if

2429
01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:47,679
that was the case

2430
01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:49,600
you had my poor mama who was married to

2431
01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:50,719
her first husband

2432
01:31:55,669 --> 01:31:53,199
she said lived over in the valley and

2433
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:55,679
she had seven kids

2434
01:31:58,950 --> 01:31:57,600
so you know why did they go after this

2435
01:32:01,750 --> 01:31:58,960
one house

2436
01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:01,760
so we we just don't know why they were

2437
01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:02,320
there

2438
01:32:06,629 --> 01:32:04,880
and you know you think about it yeah it

2439
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:06,639
looks like they were just wanting to

2440
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:07,199
play

2441
01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:09,120
or they were just like you say

2442
01:32:12,790 --> 01:32:10,960
tricksters but

2443
01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:12,800
we'll never ever know they didn't get a

2444
01:32:17,030 --> 01:32:14,400
chance to to

2445
01:32:18,070 --> 01:32:17,040
tell us what they wanted portal things

2446
01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:18,080
but yeah

2447
01:32:21,350 --> 01:32:20,719
yeah well we have another call uh

2448
01:32:23,270 --> 01:32:21,360
waiting

2449
01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:23,280
and i will tell you the lines are open

2450
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:25,360
um if someone wants to call in

2451
01:32:31,750 --> 01:32:28,880
that number is 855-472-5483

2452
01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:31,760
that's a show call i'm almost scared to

2453
01:32:37,669 --> 01:32:34,000
answer this one because it's skull

2454
01:32:41,110 --> 01:32:37,679
and bones skull and bones from canada

2455
01:32:44,870 --> 01:32:41,120
i hope i hope you're nice

2456
01:32:49,430 --> 01:32:44,880
hi there hey hello mark hello there

2457
01:32:52,629 --> 01:32:49,440
hello there hello

2458
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:52,639
hello hello there

2459
01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:55,920
i was this whole story is so great for

2460
01:32:59,750 --> 01:32:56,239
me

2461
01:33:06,550 --> 01:32:59,760
this

2462
01:33:07,270 --> 01:33:06,560
uh sorry for the english by the way and

2463
01:33:11,830 --> 01:33:07,280
the uh

2464
01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:11,840
and um and i was my my question is

2465
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:14,000
what happened between all these uh the

2466
01:33:16,709 --> 01:33:16,000
whole people there the whole family the

2467
01:33:19,350 --> 01:33:16,719
young

2468
01:33:20,229 --> 01:33:19,360
the whole and what happened like before

2469
01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:20,239
that even

2470
01:33:24,550 --> 01:33:22,960
those days before did something happen

2471
01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:24,560
like those people

2472
01:33:30,149 --> 01:33:27,440
were missing sleep they saw something uh

2473
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:30,159
they went fishing and something happened

2474
01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:33,120
because that night is like the crisis

2475
01:33:37,189 --> 01:33:34,800
but this family it's like

2476
01:33:37,990 --> 01:33:37,199
this that's the whole mood of the family

2477
01:33:41,750 --> 01:33:38,000
is great

2478
01:33:44,310 --> 01:33:41,760
it's like this this dynamic there and

2479
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:44,320
nothing come for nothing this cause to

2480
01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:45,600
affect

2481
01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:48,719
so i was wondering if you would like be

2482
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:51,120
aware i knew it's a long time ago

2483
01:33:54,629 --> 01:33:54,000
but uh if they ever told you like before

2484
01:33:58,629 --> 01:33:54,639
that

2485
01:34:01,669 --> 01:33:58,639
question

2486
01:34:03,990 --> 01:34:01,679
was going to ask her next that's

2487
01:34:05,590 --> 01:34:04,000
uh so yeah what do you say to that

2488
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:05,600
geraldine

2489
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:08,000
as far as i know they were just like i

2490
01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:09,360
said my dad

2491
01:34:12,790 --> 01:34:12,320
and vera and billy ray and june were

2492
01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:12,800
there

2493
01:34:16,070 --> 01:34:14,320
to enjoy a weekend away from the

2494
01:34:19,030 --> 01:34:16,080
carnival yeah

2495
01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:19,040
um they were there to visit his brothers

2496
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:21,040
who lived in hopkinsville which they did

2497
01:34:23,750 --> 01:34:22,080
they hunted

2498
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:23,760
they went out and had a good time you

2499
01:34:26,470 --> 01:34:25,920
know they had some decent food as far as

2500
01:34:29,669 --> 01:34:26,480
i know

2501
01:34:32,870 --> 01:34:29,679
nothing crazy happened

2502
01:34:36,149 --> 01:34:32,880
i mean you gotta think 55

2503
01:34:39,910 --> 01:34:36,159
kelly it was laid back

2504
01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:43,669
not that i know of good question

2505
01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:45,679
and if they had had something like that

2506
01:34:47,830 --> 01:34:46,719
happen they probably wouldn't have

2507
01:34:49,590 --> 01:34:47,840
talked about it because they probably

2508
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:49,600
wouldn't have connected it

2509
01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:55,189
it was a different time period you know

2510
01:34:59,270 --> 01:34:56,719
you've got

2511
01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:59,280
farming families out here and they

2512
01:35:03,270 --> 01:35:00,000
connected with

2513
01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:03,280
each other through their their church

2514
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:06,000
their families their you know that's how

2515
01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:07,199
they live back then it was

2516
01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:10,960
simple times and i just don't think they

2517
01:35:15,109 --> 01:35:13,040
would have connected anything

2518
01:35:17,109 --> 01:35:15,119
if they had a dream they wouldn't have

2519
01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:17,119
connected it to something like that i

2520
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:18,320
really don't think so

2521
01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:20,880
yeah that's interesting thanks a lot

2522
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:22,400
thanks a lot

2523
01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:30,149
yeah um so so back then

2524
01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:31,840
you know you're you're talking back then

2525
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:33,520
and you kind of bring that up a lot and

2526
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:34,080
it was

2527
01:35:38,470 --> 01:35:36,880
uh definitely a different time again the

2528
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:38,480
the lines are open eight five five

2529
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,520
four seven two five four eight three if

2530
01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:43,920
also if you don't want to call and you

2531
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:45,119
want to put a

2532
01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:46,800
question out there in the chat just make

2533
01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:49,040
sure you put it in all caps so i see it

2534
01:35:56,229 --> 01:35:52,639
um and as as far as

2535
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:56,239
um the what he just mentioned

2536
01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:57,840
i was wondering too if there was

2537
01:36:01,270 --> 01:35:59,679
anything you know ahead of time that

2538
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:01,280
anyone ever talked about but

2539
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:04,800
obviously not that you're aware of

2540
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:08,320
yeah sure there wasn't yeah and

2541
01:36:11,669 --> 01:36:10,000
what about the area you know you

2542
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:11,679
mentioned that night that they saw

2543
01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:12,480
lights

2544
01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:15,840
but as far as you know was there

2545
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:18,320
any other you know types of ufo

2546
01:36:23,189 --> 01:36:19,679
sightings in the area

2547
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:23,199
is this like an area where they often

2548
01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:23,520
see

2549
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:27,360
ufos it's a pretty strange

2550
01:36:31,030 --> 01:36:29,199
i'll be honest with you it's pretty

2551
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:31,040
strange area i've heard people

2552
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:34,960
you know down through the years

2553
01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:38,560
recently uh talk about seeing different

2554
01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:40,159
lights and stuff

2555
01:36:46,070 --> 01:36:44,560
on oh 91 which is a road that goes down

2556
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:46,080
through there and it's a long

2557
01:36:53,189 --> 01:36:49,920
tiring boring road and i've heard people

2558
01:36:54,629 --> 01:36:53,199
talk about coming home from school or

2559
01:36:58,149 --> 01:36:54,639
work or something and seeing

2560
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:58,159
lights in the road or lights follow them

2561
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:59,199
that they don't know what they are

2562
01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:00,880
they're not car lights they're not truck

2563
01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:03,119
lights anything like that what are they

2564
01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:04,480
you know kinds of things like that

2565
01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:06,480
people have told me about

2566
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:08,719
um but i think a lot of people just put

2567
01:37:12,790 --> 01:37:10,800
it off the fort campbell now

2568
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:12,800
because they think there's maneuvers

2569
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:15,280
going on and

2570
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:17,119
they see something strange oh it's to

2571
01:37:21,270 --> 01:37:18,960
support

2572
01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:21,280
and they campbell think about it anymore

2573
01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:22,320
and some of that

2574
01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:25,600
very well could be um we have a mic

2575
01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:27,920
calling from cincinnati mike welcome to

2576
01:37:32,390 --> 01:37:29,920
the show

2577
01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:32,400
hi martin i called before but i meant to

2578
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:33,280
ask a

2579
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:36,320
question about the uh the

2580
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:38,960
ring that the object left and wherever

2581
01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:39,520
it was

2582
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:41,440
and if she could still find that today

2583
01:37:46,070 --> 01:37:43,360
or someone

2584
01:37:47,030 --> 01:37:46,080
could find that area today 65 years

2585
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:47,040
later

2586
01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:49,199
and how long it took for before things

2587
01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:51,280
grew back i wonder when the last time

2588
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:56,709
thank you thank you that's a good

2589
01:38:02,550 --> 01:37:58,719
question

2590
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:02,560
well let me tell you oh

2591
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:04,960
as i mentioned earlier the travel

2592
01:38:11,030 --> 01:38:07,280
channel is doing a show

2593
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:11,040
um the host that um is doing it came

2594
01:38:15,590 --> 01:38:12,080
down

2595
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:15,600
and we recorded for it we actually had

2596
01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:16,000
the little

2597
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:19,280
map that isabelle davis had drawn out

2598
01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:21,520
that showed where everything was and

2599
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:22,560
where

2600
01:38:29,350 --> 01:38:26,400
the craft had landed

2601
01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:29,360
so we went and took this little nap and

2602
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:31,520
he was really good i can't tell you who

2603
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:32,560
it is but he was

2604
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:35,199
really good he was able to go in there

2605
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:36,560
into these woods and now you got to

2606
01:38:39,350 --> 01:38:37,679
realize

2607
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:39,360
the people that own this land don't want

2608
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:41,119
you own their land

2609
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:44,159
and the part where the craft landed is

2610
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:47,679
their land so you know

2611
01:38:56,550 --> 01:38:55,189
we risked it and went back in there into

2612
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:56,560
these woods

2613
01:39:02,149 --> 01:39:00,080
and um the woods were thick

2614
01:39:04,390 --> 01:39:02,159
you could hardly get through there but

2615
01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:04,400
he was so so it grew in quite a bit in

2616
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:05,280
the area

2617
01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:08,560
grown now it's grown now it now

2618
01:39:12,070 --> 01:39:11,280
where he found this area of course it's

2619
01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:12,080
it's not as

2620
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:13,840
thick as some other parts of the woods

2621
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:16,239
these woods haven't been cut in years

2622
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:19,360
they just let it let it grow and

2623
01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:23,280
uh he's pretty sure he found the area

2624
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:26,560
where it landed now

2625
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:29,760
my sister and i were there and um

2626
01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:32,400
we stopped going so far because it was

2627
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:33,360
just going

2628
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:35,920
down down down into the gully where this

2629
01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:37,360
landed at

2630
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:39,920
and we stopped but he went on down in

2631
01:39:44,470 --> 01:39:41,600
there

2632
01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:44,480
and um so i don't know if that's going

2633
01:39:47,669 --> 01:39:45,360
to be

2634
01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:47,679
i i would think he would put that in the

2635
01:39:51,669 --> 01:39:49,040
show where they would put that in the

2636
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:51,679
show we'll see when it airs

2637
01:39:59,910 --> 01:39:55,840
but yeah just here recently

2638
01:40:02,550 --> 01:39:59,920
that was pretty close to it right there

2639
01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:02,560
but that many years ago you know there's

2640
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,639
no way there's going to be any

2641
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,800
um trace i would think any traces of

2642
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:08,400
anything would be there i mean it would

2643
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:08,960
be

2644
01:40:13,510 --> 01:40:12,159
it's possible but you know a lot of

2645
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:13,520
rainstorms and

2646
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:16,560
winters and seasons later everything

2647
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:17,679
gets kind of

2648
01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:20,560
uh you know covered over and washed away

2649
01:40:26,390 --> 01:40:22,560
there's anything there at all

2650
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:26,400
65 years of that growth so yeah

2651
01:40:29,830 --> 01:40:28,239
um you mentioned the house is kind of

2652
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:29,840
like um

2653
01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:31,360
i don't know did you say boarded up or

2654
01:40:33,910 --> 01:40:33,360
something there oh it's not there

2655
01:40:35,910 --> 01:40:33,920
anymore

2656
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:35,920
it's not there it's taken we're down in

2657
01:40:40,310 --> 01:40:38,080
the 80s and they've built the new house

2658
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:40,320
they're the people on the land now

2659
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,600
i see and uh someone's asking you can't

2660
01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:45,360
answer this question can you who's the

2661
01:40:50,870 --> 01:40:46,960
host for the travel channel

2662
01:40:52,950 --> 01:40:50,880
uh you probably have a uh

2663
01:40:54,070 --> 01:40:52,960
a non-disclosure agreement so you can't

2664
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:54,080
can't even talk about it

2665
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:55,920
yeah i'm not hoping to talk about this

2666
01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:58,080
right now yeah

2667
01:41:01,510 --> 01:41:00,480
so just be patient can you actually talk

2668
01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:01,520
about when

2669
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:04,320
we may expect to see it it's gonna be

2670
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:06,800
september october i think

2671
01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:10,159
of this year of this year yes yes

2672
01:41:13,510 --> 01:41:12,239
yeah they're working on it right now i

2673
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:13,520
mean they've been getting a hold of me

2674
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:15,280
getting more pictures and stuff

2675
01:41:19,510 --> 01:41:18,400
and they're hoping either september or

2676
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:19,520
october so just

2677
01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:21,280
keep an eye on the travel channel it's a

2678
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:23,600
coming i would bet

2679
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:31,830
and he's got a terrific background if

2680
01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:34,080
it's who i'm thinking

2681
01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:36,320
how about that uh i'll i'm gonna send

2682
01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:38,719
him an email after the show tonight

2683
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:41,760
um get me in trouble i no i'll just tell

2684
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:44,320
him i i guessed

2685
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:47,199
no i i no i won't say anything okay okay

2686
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:47,600
um

2687
01:41:51,350 --> 01:41:49,520
so how did the press learn about the

2688
01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:51,360
this is richard um in the chat

2689
01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:54,320
how did the press learn about the event

2690
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,760
and how did the story become national

2691
01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:57,600
news

2692
01:42:02,870 --> 01:42:00,800
it just went i mean um

2693
01:42:04,310 --> 01:42:02,880
they had the initial the initial press

2694
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:04,320
was a police radio or

2695
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:07,840
i mean wow you know

2696
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:10,080
you know they called the local paper

2697
01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:11,679
they called the local paper

2698
01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:15,199
okay the radio it was on the local radio

2699
01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:18,800
station i've actually got the little

2700
01:42:23,669 --> 01:42:21,520
dvd with the aired thing from the radio

2701
01:42:26,229 --> 01:42:23,679
when they first announced it

2702
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:26,239
and so when it hit that i guess it just

2703
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:28,480
took off running

2704
01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:31,360
well yeah yeah something like that

2705
01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:32,480
happens

2706
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:34,960
you know eve a lot of people think well

2707
01:42:37,030 --> 01:42:35,600
you know it's

2708
01:42:38,709 --> 01:42:37,040
back then you know they didn't have the

2709
01:42:40,149 --> 01:42:38,719
internet or anything like that but let

2710
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:40,159
me tell you something

2711
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:43,520
um stuff traveled fast

2712
01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:46,320
and far and wide on anything like this

2713
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,520
that happened

2714
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:49,440
and and who was it that called do you

2715
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:55,910
who called yeah oh with a family member

2716
01:43:00,550 --> 01:42:57,199
called the press

2717
01:43:02,470 --> 01:43:00,560
no no no no no okay no it was

2718
01:43:03,990 --> 01:43:02,480
that night when they ran into the police

2719
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:04,000
station greenwald

2720
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:06,560
chief green told the officer on duty to

2721
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:07,920
call the local paper

2722
01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:10,400
i got it and the local paper was there

2723
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:11,040
to take

2724
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:14,400
pictures yeah and they were

2725
01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:15,920
part of them that were making fun of the

2726
01:43:20,149 --> 01:43:18,159
situation they were actually

2727
01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:20,159
it was a man and a woman and they were

2728
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:21,360
wanting doggone

2729
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:23,920
pictures they wanted pictures of the the

2730
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,920
beans or whatever they were

2731
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:27,280
they want pictures because they were

2732
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:29,040
going to make it big time if they got

2733
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:30,239
pictures

2734
01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:32,560
and that's what they were saying and

2735
01:43:35,669 --> 01:43:33,920
they were

2736
01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:35,679
making fun of the situation and stuff

2737
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:37,040
and that's what my dad heard them

2738
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:38,639
talking

2739
01:43:42,709 --> 01:43:41,040
and but that's where it started and you

2740
01:43:43,910 --> 01:43:42,719
know of course it went in the paper the

2741
01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:43,920
next day then the

2742
01:43:47,669 --> 01:43:46,000
kentucky new era there in hopkinsville

2743
01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:47,679
got it and took off

2744
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:49,760
and then the radio station announced it

2745
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:51,199
because of course papers got it the

2746
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:52,719
radio is going to have at the local

2747
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:53,679
radio

2748
01:43:57,270 --> 01:43:55,920
and so they got it so got out on that so

2749
01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:57,280
when they hit the radio i think when hit

2750
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,080
the radio that's probably when it went

2751
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:02,320
yeah yeah it doesn't it doesn't take

2752
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:03,679
long i was looking to see if i could

2753
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:04,960
find any other

2754
01:44:08,229 --> 01:44:07,760
um you know all i see is the drawings

2755
01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:08,239
now

2756
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:12,000
kind of talked about it a little bit

2757
01:44:15,750 --> 01:44:13,920
at the very beginning of the show but

2758
01:44:18,790 --> 01:44:15,760
how did the drawings come about

2759
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:18,800
um whose idea was that to have them draw

2760
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:22,159
what they saw oh gosh

2761
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:25,360
what's the guy's name you put me on um

2762
01:44:29,030 --> 01:44:28,000
it's in my book okay that's no problem

2763
01:44:32,830 --> 01:44:29,040
but how did how did

2764
01:44:33,990 --> 01:44:32,840
it how was it approached for them to

2765
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:34,000
draw

2766
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:37,119
uh a local oh what was he

2767
01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:40,239
gosh i can't thank my brain's dead a

2768
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:42,239
local guy a local reporter i think he

2769
01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:44,800
was a reporter at the time

2770
01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:47,600
wanted to find out more so he he did it

2771
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,679
he went to the family and asked him if

2772
01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:51,520
they could tell him what they look like

2773
01:44:56,070 --> 01:44:53,280
and so

2774
01:44:57,270 --> 01:44:56,080
they said yeah you know we'll tell you

2775
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:57,280
so he took them each

2776
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:00,719
off in a room to themselves just him

2777
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:04,639
whoever it was and had them

2778
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:05,920
tell them what it looked like and he

2779
01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:07,760
drew it out and those are

2780
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:14,070
i see so he they had it was like a

2781
01:45:17,990 --> 01:45:17,280
an artist like a a character artist or

2782
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:18,000
or

2783
01:45:23,270 --> 01:45:21,360
like a police witness artist no no no it

2784
01:45:25,990 --> 01:45:23,280
was just a local

2785
01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:26,000
oh just a local person local guy let me

2786
01:45:32,709 --> 01:45:30,470
meanwhile i'm trying to get uh some

2787
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:32,719
pictures up here of that

2788
01:45:36,310 --> 01:45:34,320
i think i got a new one right here

2789
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:36,320
coming through

2790
01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:39,360
okay and uh led with bud led with is the

2791
01:45:44,390 --> 01:45:40,960
one that did it

2792
01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:44,400
i see okay uh we are going to

2793
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,040
uh if anyone wants to call in you have

2794
01:45:51,109 --> 01:45:49,040
just a couple of minutes to call in

2795
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:51,119
otherwise that's going to be it for

2796
01:45:55,350 --> 01:45:53,040
calls this evening

2797
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:55,360
um because we have to end the show just

2798
01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:56,080
a little bit

2799
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:00,960
early um and i did want to uh

2800
01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:08,070
hang in just a second so anyway this is

2801
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:09,440
the drawings and it shows that

2802
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:12,960
comparative uh now on this

2803
01:46:17,189 --> 01:46:15,760
if you look um at the screen geraldine

2804
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:17,199
you'll see a picture of

2805
01:46:22,149 --> 01:46:20,560
there's one of them has like clothes on

2806
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:22,159
did someone think they saw clothes on

2807
01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:23,679
one of them no no

2808
01:46:28,550 --> 01:46:26,080
i don't know where that came from i mean

2809
01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:28,560
oh that might be just a bogus thing

2810
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:35,910
yeah of course people were i'm sure

2811
01:46:41,669 --> 01:46:38,000
drawing different things now the actual

2812
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:41,679
real drawings were bad are like

2813
01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:45,360
that one yep yeah

2814
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:48,159
the one that it's got the abs that billy

2815
01:46:52,830 --> 01:46:48,639
ray

2816
01:46:54,070 --> 01:46:52,840
oh yeah yeah you wonder where he works

2817
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:54,080
out and they've

2818
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:57,119
got the other planet planet fitness no

2819
01:47:02,149 --> 01:46:59,040
sorry that's a bad joke there you go

2820
01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:02,159
then you got the other nurse yeah yeah

2821
01:47:07,910 --> 01:47:05,440
yeah well interesting so yeah

2822
01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:07,920
well it's uh like you said it's been 15

2823
01:47:13,750 --> 01:47:10,080
years since there's been a documentary

2824
01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:13,760
uh done on this thing and you know maybe

2825
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:16,159
uh you are doing your best to keep the

2826
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:17,600
story alive

2827
01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:19,280
and you know do you have someone that

2828
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:20,800
will fall in your footsteps if you

2829
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:22,400
decide not to do that anymore

2830
01:47:26,229 --> 01:47:25,280
well i've told my son he's gonna have to

2831
01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:26,239
yeah

2832
01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:28,719
he will or not does he have an interest

2833
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:30,320
in it in the whole thing

2834
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:34,000
yeah he actually he uh his senior year

2835
01:47:37,350 --> 01:47:36,000
in high school he did a paper on it his

2836
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:37,360
senior paper on it

2837
01:47:42,310 --> 01:47:41,520
so so i think he can do it he'll just

2838
01:47:45,510 --> 01:47:42,320
have to

2839
01:47:46,470 --> 01:47:45,520
to learn but maybe i'll be right he told

2840
01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:46,480
me i couldn't die

2841
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,990
uh got a kids book i'm working on uh

2842
01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:55,679
illustrator is working on it right now

2843
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:57,119
so hopefully i'll have it out

2844
01:48:02,830 --> 01:48:00,480
soon it's gonna be cute a kid's book

2845
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:02,840
about the encounter

2846
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:04,880
yes uh

2847
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:08,159
sleep well kids yeah

2848
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:10,800
it's not scary it's gonna be really cute

2849
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:12,800
oh i bet i bet

2850
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:14,960
well we are uh we are toward the end of

2851
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:15,920
the show here

2852
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:19,920
and so now um if someone wanted to reach

2853
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:21,199
out to you how would they

2854
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:23,199
do that if you want to give your

2855
01:48:27,270 --> 01:48:24,320
information out there

2856
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:27,280
you're welcome to um i do have a website

2857
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:27,679
it's

2858
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:35,199
my uh email on there and everything but

2859
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:36,480
facebook

2860
01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:38,400
i mean i'm just typing that's how we

2861
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:40,080
connected yeah

2862
01:48:43,270 --> 01:48:42,159
you know that's probably the best thing

2863
01:48:45,350 --> 01:48:43,280
if you really want to

2864
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:45,360
talk to me about anything you know i'll

2865
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:47,280
try to answer any questions i can if

2866
01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:49,119
you've got any i don't mind talking

2867
01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:51,360
about it it's like i tell people

2868
01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:53,119
any day and talk about the green men is

2869
01:48:57,990 --> 01:48:55,600
a good day so

2870
01:48:59,830 --> 01:48:58,000
yeah yeah that's right well it's great

2871
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:59,840
well thank you so much it's been a real

2872
01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:00,480
pleasure

2873
01:49:03,990 --> 01:49:02,639
well thank you for having me i enjoyed

2874
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:04,000
it yeah

2875
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:05,760
it's been a lot of fun all right you

2876
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:08,400
take care of yourself thank you you too

2877
01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:11,440
all right good night whoops i

2878
01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:13,760
cut her off i hate when i do that next

2879
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:14,800
we have uh

2880
01:49:19,189 --> 01:49:16,960
the the show is called uh if you're on

2881
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:19,199
kgr a radio and you're listening

2882
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:21,199
uh the show coming up next is called

2883
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:22,800
universal secrets

2884
01:49:26,550 --> 01:49:25,119
the hosts are tiffany mack and kevin

2885
01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:26,560
hale and their

2886
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:29,679
uh guest tonight is ken gerard

2887
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:33,520
uh he's a kryptos crypto zoologist

2888
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:35,840
that's always a hard word to say uh next

2889
01:49:41,430 --> 01:49:38,080
week don't forget everyone we have

2890
01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:41,440
uh tom warner if you haven't seen

2891
01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:44,239
the uh i know some people just can't get

2892
01:49:49,589 --> 01:49:46,080
there but if you haven't seen the

2893
01:49:51,669 --> 01:49:49,599
uh netflix if you don't have netflix i

2894
01:49:53,910 --> 01:49:51,679
don't know what to tell you to do but

2895
01:49:55,750 --> 01:49:53,920
the berkshires ufos i believe it's

2896
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:55,760
episode five

2897
01:49:58,790 --> 01:49:57,199
check that out if you can do that in

2898
01:50:01,830 --> 01:49:58,800
between time it is

2899
01:50:04,070 --> 01:50:01,840
really really amazing and so that is it

2900
01:50:06,550 --> 01:50:04,080
for us tonight thank you so much

2901
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:06,560
and again we'll be back next week thanks

2902
01:50:09,189 --> 01:50:07,440
for all those

2903
01:50:10,950 --> 01:50:09,199
who help out and bill thanks for your

2904
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:10,960
extra help tonight and

2905
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,840
the call center over there take care

2906
01:50:27,090 --> 01:50:15,920
everyone and remember to keep your eyes